San Angelo City Council 2-21-17

[0:00:00] Marano to come forward. I'm going to ask you to stand as you are able. Good morning, Seth. Good morning. My name is Lacan Mariano, Pastor of Intelligence by this Church. It's good to be here this morning. I've watched you guys on television. It's good to be here in person to pray for you. And it's to see Lane. I was at the hospital when he was born 15 years ago and but let's pray. Father, I just want to thank you for this morning. Father, for or this body of our representatives, Lord, to deliberate over the things that we need to do as a city. Father, I ask for your blessings on them, and I thank you, Father, that you are not just a God who is up in the heavens, but Father, you summon your rules over the affairs of men, and you place them in this position, Father, to watch over the affairs of the city, and so we pray for wisdom for them, as you have promised that if we like wisdom, Father that you will give it to us, and so I pray that for them. I pray, Father, for also your grace, Lord, that you'll give them the ability to be able to see and be able to do the things that we need to do as a city, to advance, Lord, the things that will make this city be prosperous and peaceful, and really a neighborhood, a community of people, wherever we are, and I thank you so much, Father, for your presence, your guidance for your grace that is that is always sufficient for everything that we need if we're your mercies that are new every morning we praise you for those things and we thank you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I pray amen if you would please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance and the Texas flag. Under the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state, under God, one, and individual.

[0:02:14] Thank you so very much. I've got two things going on this morning that I am very, very proud of. I just kind of flip coin to see which one would be first. Coach, if you would bring your gentleman up, I'll tell you what our Bobcats did a wonderful job this year. I am so very proud of these guys and when you've got a one-handed catch Unbelievable what our boys did this year. So I wanted to coach to come up here We've got a recognition farm and I wanted y'all to see them and just wanted to brag on them a little bit And tell you how very it important it is to our city and to our community To have a Bobcat ball thing that is gone as far in this great state is what these guys did And I'll tell you what, if the weather had co-operated just a little bit, we'd have been number one. City Council, City of San Angelo hereby recognizes and applauds the 2016 Central Bobcat football team for their first undefeated regular season since 1943. Becoming district champions for the fourth consecutive year. Among their many other accomplishments this season, along with their dedication to embodied the very best of what it means to bear the title, student-athlete. We have Adam West and Gary Scott, two of our senior captains representing our football team today, and we really appreciate the recognition from the city of San Angelo. Very proud to be from San Angelo, and we've got great youth in this town to work with, and that's a testament to these two young men and our parents that are in this town. here in this town, but we appreciate this very much. Let's get a picture of him back here, let's get on the way.

[0:04:38] Now the next thing I have got that I am proud of, and I said that every one of my last meetings now, I'm going to have some musical talent here, and I'm going to showcase and highlight local San Angelo talent, because we have more talent here in San Angelo, Texas, and probably anywhere else in the world. and we grow our own, you know, they clap to Austin. We grow our own here. I've got John Irish this morning, and I've asked him to bring some Googlers up here. I've asked for Booglers Holiday, which is probably my number one favorite song. John, you're on, you got 10 minutes, y'all do whatever you want to do.

[0:09:05] I did play that song once, but it's been 50 years ago.

[0:13:40] Thank you so very much. I'll tell you that one of the biggest regrets I've got is when I got out of high school, I laid my trumpet down. Don't do it, kids. Keep playing, you trumpet. This is what happens. Gentlemen, thank you so very much. I'm proud of you guys. Thank you so much for being with us this morning. Next meeting, I've got Leon Langley and Billy Dan Langley. Leon Langley is probably the best steel guitar player in the entire world, and his son Billy Dan plays the flute and the guitar and the bass and the harp and anything else that exists musically. So Billy Dan and Leon will be here next meeting, and they're going to show us what's some more sun angelo talent is about. I don't know you back there. I need to picture Brian if you hear. We do have some proclamation.

[0:16:12] Steve mild, are you here? Come on up, my friend. Good morning, that's the fun. Good to see you, sir. Is anyone called to Texas downpour or cold front can tell you the weather in the Lone Star State change in an instant. These changes can be unpredictable and intense and severe weather can strike anywhere at any time and with little or no warning. Over the years storms opposed to significant threat to Texas lives and properties and as a result we must be ever vigilant in the face of severe weather. While dangerous storms can strike at any time of the year the months of March, April, and May bring a greater potential of violent weather events including damaging thunderstorms, hail storms, straight line winds, tornadoes, and flooding. and it is vital that all Texas be aware of the dangers they present. Planning and preparation can greatly reduce loss of life and property when disasters strike. Texans should be familiar with the differences between severe weather watches and warnings. Designators say it's a place for family members to meet in case of evacuation. Develop a plan to communicate with relatives and friends in other areas and put together a preparedness kit of important supplies and most importantly, Texans should heed warnings, information and instructions provided by local officials and emergency management personnel. Now, therefore, I, Dwayne Morrison, the mayor of the city of St. Andrew on behalf of the city council, do hereby proclaim the month of March, 2017, as Severe Weather Awareness Month. Steve, there's your proclamation, and there's the microphone. We've got three minutes. The conference, yeah. Yeah, that's it. I would like to thank you for making this declaration. March is the month when severe weather normally sets in.

[0:18:15] It becomes very, very imperative that we all prepare ourselves for that. And the National Weather Service nationwide has declared or asked that mayors, governors, and county judges declare March as severe weather month. And so, Mayor Morrison, you're in line with everybody else. And I thank you very much. And I would encourage all of the citizens of San Angelo to become aware, know what all of the differences are between watchers and warnings and advisories. Our office is available to help anybody and we encourage you to give us a call. Thank you. Thanks, Dave. Where'd you check? I get a picture here. All right, I understand Greg Rose not here this morning, but I do have his designee. Come forward, please, ma'am. Come on up, baby. Good deal. The month of March, 217, has been designated as National Development Disabilities Month in order to celebrate and recognize people with disabilities. Individuals with developmental disabilities, their families, friends, and neighbors, and coworkers encourage everyone to focus on the abilities of all people. Individuals with development disabilities are entitled to enjoy participating and share the same benefits, privileges, and protection afforded other citizens of our city, county-stated nation. The City of St. Angelo encourages all citizens to support opportunities for individuals with developmental disabilities that include full access to education, housing, employment, and recreation. Now, therefore, in order to recognize the many contributions and the challenges of citizens with developmental and disabilities living in St. Angelo, Ida Wayne Morrison, the Mayor of the City of San Angel on behalf of the City Council. Do hereby proclaim the month of March

[0:20:19] 217 as Developmental Disabilities Awareness Month and encourage all citizens to observe the month with appropriate programs and activity. Furthermore, we encourage all citizens to seek information from those organizations with expertise in matters concerning professionals who support individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities and there is more and there is more. Thank you, Mayor and City Council. Gregory Rowe was not able to be here. He's feeling a little bit under the weather, but image and more services will be launching a social media campaign that will highlight the many ways that people can come together with or without a development of disability and build a strong and diverse community. So again, thank you so much for your support. Thank you, Amy. Hi, my name's Amy. I'm Amy Miss Elfland. I'm the Community Relations Manager at Mosaic. And like MHMR, we also work with people with developmental and intellectual disabilities. And I wanted to thank you also for this proclamation. And we're also launching a campaign to talk about all the different opportunities that the community can, in different ways, a community can benefit from people working with people with disabilities. So they'll be your best employees If you need somebody who can come and do a task that maybe not everybody would want to do, they are able to do repetitive tasks and will show up every day on time and be happy to be there. These are items that are not on the agenda

[0:22:37] may be erased by the public at this time. Citizens should speak from the podium, began by stating their name and limit remarks to less than five minutes. Council members may request that a discussed item be placed on future agenda. The Council takes public comment on all regular agenda items during the discussion of these items. If you wish to approach the City Council to this time and anything you've got to say, anything is on your mind, this is your opportunity to come to the front, state your name, and let's start at about three minutes. May I have several of them today, so let's limit to about three minutes we'll start with you sir I am too so I understand I'd like to actually use your microphone buddy I'd like to actually bring to your attention what I consider an atrocity in the hands let's start with your name Aaron James okay thank you I'd like to bring your attention what I consider an atrocity at the hands of two animal control officers that I win this last week. To help keep my comments brief and concise, I'm just going to read an email that has gone around to several people in the town. I watched two animal control officers euthanize an animal in my front yard. Now please don't think me an animal rights nut. I have however worked in the past at a large animal shelter near Austin and have unfortunately euthanized many animals myself. This experience is why I knew what I saw was so unethical and abusive to both the animal, as well as the good Samaritan attempting to rescue it. On 2-12-17 last weekend, just before lunch, I walked outside to see a miniature pincher, a small dog, with what's called a prolapsed rectum. His anus was hanging out. Concerned for the animal's well-being, I contacted the non-emerged C-S-A-P-D line, and I was informed that the only way that animal control would even be dispatched is if I caught the

[0:24:40] animal. So, having experienced that in a humane society, I offered to catch the animal, which I did. I then called them back and said the animal is ready for pickup. About 15 minutes later, an S.A.P.D. officer arrives to facilitate transferring the dog to animal control. Over the 30 or 45 minutes that we waited for animal control to show up, we discussed the local ordinance about spay and neuter and microchipping, something that I was very impressed with when I moved to this town a year ago. It seemed as though we both expected these animal control officers to care for this animal to attempt to locate its owner. However, when they pulled up, one of the animal control officers asked me if I owned the dog that comprised the entirety of their search for that animal's owner. They did not use any sort of microchip scanning device. They didn't even attempt to hold the dog for a certain period of time. As they moved the dog from a micro crate to their truck, they saw that it was friendly in need of medical care. And as this is going on, all four of us are talking about the fact this dog may need surgery and hopefully we can find an owner. During this, some of the animal control officers, I apologize, during this the animal control officers pulled out some syringes, which time I thought this is very impressive, they vaccinate their animals before they take into the shelter. Until I recognized what they were pulling up in that syringe, they had a large syringe full of this blue liquid that is used to euthanize animals. I could do anything, they yanked this dog up, stabbed the needle through its chest, a so-called sub-sterinal injection, and then slammed the dog into the cage, slammed the door shut, and drove away. The dog was still suffering and writhing around as they drove away. Now, this method of injection

[0:26:44] is the absolute most inhumane way that we know of inhumane societies to euthanize an animal. It's the worst technique. It's the absolute last go-to technique when you have an animal that you absolutely cannot get a vein into. Get into a vein. I have a lot more to say, unfortunately, I know I'm taking up too much time. I think that it should be brought to your attention. These officers chose the incorrect technique. They did it inhumanely, they did it in full public view in my front yard. They failed to attempt to locate the owner and they did not attempt to hold the animal according to the city policies for three days prior to euthanizing. I think that both the officers as well as the Humane Society the animal services in general need some attention to prevent further cruelty such as this. One other comment, the owner was found 45 minutes later. Doors down. Thank you, sir. It's for your time. Next. Mayor, City Council, my name is Steve Hampton, and I bring before you at this time a request for reasons good and bad, I think that the consent agenda is overused. You have on it today, an appointment for MHMR. You have property sales in Lake Nazwar, the area. You have dump trucks that are being purchased and atmos, pipeline that is being fought, raising their prices

[0:28:48] of being fought. I think these are things that should be aired And for reasons good, I think it's great that you're doing some of this stuff, but you also have appointments that go unreal and unheard, like appraisal board appointments. And you have second readings that I think avoid the purpose of a second reading. So I would ask that you decrease the usage of your consent agenda in hopes of airing all of it. I think it's good for you. Keeps people informed and in the know as far as what you're doing and how you're going about it. And time conservation is not the primary element here. I think it's getting getting a good government in play. And I appreciate the time. Any further public comment? Well, good morning. Good morning, Mayor, Council. Mr. On this one. You're going to have to start by giving his name. My name is Tony Villarreal. All right. And I'm here this morning to give voice to the many phone calls, texts, emails, and et cetera that I have received regarding the racial comments made via social media by Councilman Bill Richardson. Words do matter. All the comments shared with me with those of outrage and disbelief. As a citizen and a constituent of SMD-1, I am disappointed, troubled, and to some degree, frightened because the words and actions do matter. Something Councilman Rishin's rich son fell to realize I respect the role of our city officials

[0:30:55] and especially the roles of our men and women in blue. I am aware of the decisions that come before the council and our police department are not always easy. And while everyone is entitled to their opinion, I appreciate the fact that we live in a great country where we can disagree without arguing. We can disagree without being divisive, and we can disagree without blaming others. In my opinion, that is how our local council does business. With fairness, respect, and a sincere interest in the betterment of all our community. Words do matter. Our community. San an angel with community that I love and I choose to live and work in. My business and my family are here in San Angel. We are one community with a diverse set of citizens. There is no reason to pit one segment of our community against another. We need as our leaders as people who will bring unity and respect to our community. police department should be commended not ridicule. Our neighbors are still our neighbors regardless of race color or religion. To suggest that our police officers are discriminatory in the line of duty is inflaming emotions of division and hatred. Mr. Richardson, you're out of line to call upon non-Hispanic citizens to be aware to distress Hispanic police officers due to your own personal insecurities. I hope and pray that my fellow citizens will reject this false notion that you have unleashed. There is truly an outrage in the community, not only from the Hispanic community, but from all the community in general. Whatever measures are taken by the San Andes Police Department

[0:32:59] spouses association and the constituents in SMD1 is yet unknown. What is known is that the safety of our men and women in blue and the community in general is threatened because words do matter. At the very least, I respectfully request or Councilman Richton to rescind his comments and publicly apologize to the San Angel Police Department officers, their families, and all citizens of San Angel. As for me and my family, we will continue to pray for you. Thank you and God bless San Angel. Thank you, Tony. Good morning. Good morning. My name is Michelle Martin. I'm sure you guys have already seen the release that the San Angel law enforcement spouses have released on Facebook already, but I'm going to reread for you. Sorry. The San Diego Law Enforcement Services Association stands in unity and solidarity and calling for the immediate resignation of Bill Richardson from his seat as City Councilman for single member district one in San Angelo. Councilman Richardson's recent public comments on social media that called for non-Hispanic members of our community to document their interactions with Hispanic SAPD officers are dangerous and deeply struggling for our city and our police community for many reasons. Mr. Richardson's justification for his actions based on his interpretation of interactions with the Hispanic S.A.P.D. officer who is responding to his call to S.A.P.D. dispatch about his Hispanic neighbor are beyond the pale for any elected official. Even when police chief Frank Carter responded publicly on social media with the appropriate means of action for any such complaint, Mr. Richardson said he will stick to my original statement. It is obvious to us that Mr. Richton's actions indicate that he is more interested in publicly drumming up racial tensions between our police department and citizens than he is in representing

[0:35:03] his constituents and the city as a whole. Any elected official attempting to deepen racial divides is inexcusable. To do so with our police is reprehensible. There is no doubt to us and many in San Angelo that Mr. Richton's statements serve to incite racism in our community and at worst could result in palpable threats and potential violence against some of our sworn law enforcement officers, our husbands and our wives, based on the color of their skin. Mr. Richardson's actions are childish and only reinforced a trend that he has perpetuated on social media before and since he was elected to District 1. He certainly does not represent the standards of public service and leadership that our city should demand. Councilman Richardson must resign a seat on the San Jo City Council immediately. Should he choose not to do so, the San Angel Law Enforcement Space Association will do everything within their power to remove him from office via recall as per section 48 of the San Jo City Charter. I think all of our law enforcement and our citizens have done an exceptional job in keeping this racial war out of San Jo Lo. So for somebody who is supposed to represent our city, to invite that in infuriates me to no end. That is my husband and my family out there putting them, there's uniforms and is unacceptable to me. Anybody that tries on that blue line is inexcusable, not acceptable and it should be dealt with. Thank you very much. Morning Rodney. Morning. My name is Rodney Fleming. I am a resident of single member district one. I'm the the media past council person from single member district one. I'm horrified by my representative from that district. When I see the things that he says and does on social media, it just drives me totally nuts.

[0:37:05] I was informed about six months ago that there was a group that was going to get together and ask for a recall on this and they kept telling me they were going to do it. They were gonna do it. They never did do it. So I'm coming up here because I believe that if someone doesn't step forward and do this and stop this person, this person is going to divide our city and make it much worse than it is now. We live in a kind of a bubble here in San Angelo and it's really one of the best cities in the country, I think, as far as police relations and neighborhood relations. And so I don't want that to be destroyed. I called Michelle yesterday at the with the San Angel Police Officers Association or spouses association and Discussed with them helping them helping them Get the get together the signatures that will be needed to have a recall for mr. Richardson first of all I'd like to formally ask him for his resignation I know he's not going to do that because he's not even man enough to be here for this meeting So now we're going to go forward with getting the signatures. We need 643 signatures. We'd like to get about eight to nine hundred signatures. We are getting together as a group tomorrow at noon at the San Angelos Realtors Association. This I got the room on my own and we're gonna have a meeting for about an hour to try to put together a game plan on getting 20 to 40 volunteers to collect between 20 and 40 signatures. It'll be very easy to do that I've already collected probably well over a hundred so it'll be easy I'll have their voter ID numbers that'll be easy to fill out the paperwork everybody will be nice and nice and smooth and we can get this done a couple of things people I want to point out to people I'm not interested in anything political ever ever again and I don't want to do this and that's not what I'm doing this the reason why I'm doing this is I was informed that other people were gonna do it, and they never did step forward to do it. And as you guys know, especially, I will step

[0:39:07] forward and I will do it. So we are going to get it done. If you have any, if the public has any questions, please contact Michelle with the San Angelo spouses, police officers associate association, or you can contact me on social media. And the meeting again will be tomorrow at 12 noon at the San Angelo Realtors Association. That address is 1902 Pekka Thank you for your time. Thank you, Rodney. Good morning, Ms. Daedra. Good morning. Good morning. I am Daedra Butler, Vice President of the local NAACP. I am not here, I'm here speaking, yes, as an officer in the NAACP, and as a citizen of San Angelo, this town where I was born and raised, that I loved so much that I chose to not leave. I think San Angelo is bigger than this. However, in many ways, I appreciate Bill Richardson's blatant, not subtle, not behind the scenes, because I've looked at, I'm a new member of Facebook, and I've seen the comments of people that I thought better than the comments that they present. But in many ways, we know what we're dealing with here. And this is very important that we know what we're dealing with. There is no place for this in San Angelo. Thank you. Daedra. Good morning. Morning, my name is Veronica Vales and I'm the neighbor of Bill Richardson. I'm the one he's had problems with over the past several months. Mr. Richardson has come onto my property

[0:41:07] intoxicated for various reasons. everything from asking for a ride to go to buy alcohol to complain about our basketball goal located on my property. Recently, his bizarre behavior has included taking pictures of my children and myself outside playing while he sits in his truck and his driveway. We have told him several times, my husband has also, that he is not welcome on our property, and if he has any problems, He needs to speak to my husband at any time or day or night because he has come at night. The latest he's been there is at 1030 at night, intoxicated. However, he continues to do so to keep going over to my home. Over the weekend, my parents were in town visiting. We took our kids to the carnival, and my parents stayed home. Mr. Richardson decided to go bang on our door and harassed my disabled parents. My dad answered the door and Mr. Richardson was rambling and smelled of alcohol and was obviously intoxicated again. My dad ran him off the property, the next day we called S.A.P.D. Mr. Richardson is not allowed on our property or he will be arrested. Mr. Richardson needs to be held accountable for his inappropriate comments and his behavior. No one that holds city office that presents himself in this manner that Richardson should represent St. Angelo in no shape or form. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Good morning. Mayor. Good morning, Mr. Valenzuela. My name is Sylvia Martinez and I come

[0:43:09] because I was upset about this. Me of all persons here in St. Angelo, Texas have suffered. my husband was beaten and they never did nothing. The person that did it, Richard Bastardo, got away with it. My son was blind and he never did nothing, the police officers. I came up here and I voted and I told you all to give him a race. I was the only one and another lady. Because we can't live on the back. We have to live toward every day. We can't be stretching on the back. No, we got to live day by day in unity. It don't matter if we're white, brown, or black. It doesn't matter, we need to be united. But the thing is that I've told you all, and you all don't listen, there is a lot of people that discriminate as they stop me the other day, and the officer treated me real bad. There's a lot of people, how come they don't do it. An officer went to my house and he told me, don't call me over here because I come over here to your house. They're gonna take my, his retirement. What kind of city do we have that our officers can't go because they're gonna take their retirement? I come here because there has to be a change. And we need, we need to have a change in everything. Everybody, everybody's responsible because we live here. And we have to have a saying to everything that is done in this town. We need changes. And I guess I'm the only one that stands up in here and tells you we need changes for the best,

[0:45:12] We're not for us because we're open for our kids, that the schools will care for these kids, nobody cares for them. You can see them in the barrio, they don't go to school, nobody cares. Where's the police officers? Where's the school administration? Where's everybody? No, there's nobody for them. Why don't they come and talk to about all these officers that do wrong, that don't help us? They just help whoever they want. If you're popular in this town, you, they come and help you. But if you're not popular, like me, nobody cares. But you know what? I suffered. I suffered because of my husband was killed in my own home. But you know what? What did they do? And still, I stood up here and told you all, give them a raise, because you know what? We have to move on. And we need to move on and I and I pray for you every day That there will be changes coming in May Morgan We are in our season of capital playing organ check with Morgan check within budget manager And I wanted to share with those watching and those watching afterwards that we have an opportunity to weigh in on the city's capital plan this Thursday the 23rd at 6 p.m. in the convention center here in the council chambers. In addition to that for folks that are busy and can't come there's an opportunity online at cosetx.us slash cip and put we're hungry to gather this information and get it back to you all when we're doing our strategic planning and budget planning. So thank you. Thank you Morgan. How are you this morning? I understand I

[0:47:13] I understand. I would like to say good morning. Let's start with the name, my friend. I was going to get there in a second. Yeah. I wanted to address everyone that would say good morning, but obviously for those people that know me, if I'm here this early in the morning, it's not going to be a good morning. My name is Rosendo Rosie Vallez. I'm a retired chief of the NYCRMS. Moved to San Angelo in 2004. Met a lot of beautiful people here in 2001 who opened their hearts and took care of my fellow first responders and myself after that fateful day in September. With that being said, I'm going to let you know I'm a chaplain for first responders nowadays, but 98% of the time, you know, I'm just mellowing out in my chair's Dwayne nose, but I'm here about the statements that were made and I'm not going to beat a dead horse because other people already spoke about District 1. I do want to bring up a couple of things. I don't want the waters to be muddied, and I don't want attention being paid to take it away and shown to other issues. You know, here's the bottom line. Within a couple of hours, our chief, it's back there in case nobody knows, that's Frank. He reached out to the gentleman, gave him more than one opportunity to turn around and do the right thing, due to right filings, et cetera, et cetera. Here's the reality. To think that we don't have bad apples in first responders anywhere in this country, you're kind of stupid if you believe that, okay? We have bad apples everywhere. The key thing is you have individuals in certain positions that it's their job to weed them out. With that being said, I want everyone here to kind of remember a little history before I moved to St. Angelo, a phone call that I got way back in 2002, 2003. I can't remember exactly when because I've slept a little since then. But this city had some hate mongers

[0:49:16] who rolled buses into the city for a couple of marches and protests. If I remember correctly what was said to me down by the courthouse. And there were a couple of first responders here to reach out to me back home, on how they felt about that. You know, some people have said that St. Angelo's a unique place, well, yes it is. You know, and in my opinion, or in my statements, a couple of people, I don't give it down. Here's the reality. The greatest police department there is in the United States, and I'm, we'll say the NYPD, we fought terrorism, and have men around the world since the mid-70s, way before 9-11, co-founders with joint terrorism, task force, and proud members of it. With that being said, the city of New York per capita, no way comes clear to what's in our backyard. That's the city of Dallas, when it comes to community relations, and when it comes to officers being held to a higher standard. Now, fast forward a little. It took one, hate monger, and one racist to cause the death of multiple members of services in that city. Now, I'm gonna put the entire council to task. As a citizen, if you guys don't get in front of this fast, and if you think this is gonna go away, or let sleeping dogs lie, I'm warning you right now, that type of garbage is gonna come here. We don't need that garbage here, okay? That's something everyone here needs to recognize and get in front of. It's not the individual. It's not the way he said things. Look at the substance of what it is. He's had more than enough time to get in front of this thing. He doesn't. This man is just a hate monger and a racist. You guys don't get in front of this quick. I'm telling you, since the beginning of this year,

[0:51:16] I has been in front of video chat and watched and buried over 20 of my fellow first responders, five of them who stood shoulder to shoulder with me on that day. I don't want that man back there to have to suffer with just one injured officer. I don't want done, chief done, to suffer with one injured first responder. Get in front of this thing and get in front of it fast. And again, like I said, chief, on behalf of the citizens, what common sense, I apologize that you have to deal with this garbage. That's it. Thank you, Rosie. Any other comments? Microphone is open. Good morning. Hear me? All right. My name is Elena Veliz Reyes. And I'm here as a citizen of San Angelo. I've lived here for 16 years. I am the sister of the neighbor of Mr. Richardson. I did not know that he was the man on the city council until Sunday otherwise I would have come and spoken to y'all a long time ago. Over the past at least six months this man has been harassing my sister and her family. My brother-in-law works in the oil film and he is gone for two weeks and comes home for a week. coward that didn't show up today. Her ass is my sister when my brother-in-law's truck is gone. And I think any member of the City Council who doesn't demand that he resigns should be ashamed of themselves. Mr. Carter is my representative. Would you come to my house drunk asking for a ride to go buy beer? Exactly.

[0:53:21] because he has higher standards and somebody who represents the city of St. Angelo should have higher standards. There's no room for that here in St. Angelo and I wish he was here today so that I could look him in the eye and tell him you don't mess with my family. You don't do that. My sister works hard. She takes care of her two children, and she does what she's supposed to do. And it's a shame that she has to put up with this person's idioces. Thank you for your time. Thank you, ma'am. My phone is open, public comment. Still open, but it's about the close. If there is no more public comment than we will close this section of our agenda and it it has been interesting. I thank each and every one of you for your comments. Thank you for very much for standing up and saying what's on your mind. Now we'll go to our council and this is the time that we allow for public for comments that our councils might like to make or any statements that they might like to make or if there are any items on the consent agenda that you would like to pull. I'll start with you, Ms. Charlotte. First of all, I do have a comment. I understand that I was missed at last meeting. You were missed. My apologies. I did have a board meeting for porch deflings in Austin as well as the text.conference. I'd like to give a short report on text.conference right quick. For those of you who are aware, I-14, I-27 was the big subjects

[0:55:26] of going on at the text conference, and I'm proud to say that Porched Plains has been operating on those, your behalf, in those efforts for those of you who don't know, I believe the first 25 miles of I-14, that's a year ago, people started hearing about I-14, and for those of you who don't know, that's a highway between Waco and El Paso, and the first 25 miles of that is now complete. I don't think we have ever seen anything move quite that fast. But I, 14, has been put on the fast track by the state of Texas and it's going to happen. Whether it gets through San Angelo or bypasses, depends on the efforts of those of us in this city who wanted to come here to help our city grow and to help commerce. And that was an important meeting for me to attend and that's the reason I wasn't here and it had been on the calendar for quite some time. The other public comment that I wanted to make I will be giving the Costa DC board a full report on that meeting in the morning at 8.30. So stay tuned, listen in or what you would like to hear, but just in short, Text Dot is telling all the cities out there if there's something that you want for your city, your town, in streets, and so forth, get it on the drawing board now. Now today, not tomorrow, not 10 years from now, because projects that get on the board now, it'll be 2040, 2040 before it gets done. So we don't need to think behind, we need to think ahead and think out of the box. Changing right quick to personal, congratulations to my granddaughter for giving birth to a grandson last week. For those of you that I did not get your calls returned last week, I apologize, I was pacing the floor at Shannon Hospital. We have a beautiful healthy baby boy, and Mom and Son are doing great. So those are my comments as to the public, my comments to the staff for the work that you

[0:57:31] do that you put on, and thanks to all of you for your help on my town hall meeting, my very first day back from Austin, with reference to improvements out on Sherwood Way, brought up to speed on those, and I want to thank the staff for all the work that they did. My comments from today, I do stand with a lot of citizens out there. I know that we, the council, don't hire or put council members in, the citizens do, and I am listening to the citizens. Mr. Fleming, I miss you. You may not believe it, but I do miss you. The only thing that I'm aware of, I'm going to ask the city manager about sanctions that the council is able to place, but what we may do, if you will, inform us immediately as to what we can do as a council and to stand with the citizens of San Angelo. I have nothing to pull from the agenda. Two comments. First one is I will be having a follow up town hall meeting next Tuesday, the 28th on the CIP, the pertaining to the budget and the capital improvement. It will be at College Hills Baptist Church at 6 p.m. in the fellowship hall, that will be the left hand door when you're looking at the parking lot from Johnson Street. Second, I have some comments about the previous Facebook posts also, so bear with me. Last few days, we've had some disturbing comments on Facebook. These comments pertaining to an incident involving one of our fellow council and the neighbors and if police officers are called out to them. These comments I found are very disturbing to me and I do not agree with them at all. Comments like these you may find in other cities. Cities that have accepted the racehores and the riots that follow it. But not here, not in my hometown and not in the town that I love dearly of San Angelo, Texas.

[0:59:34] I stand behind our men and women on our police department. They are here to help us and our town, and we should show nothing but our utmost respect for them. San Angelo is a unique town. We do not succumb to the ways of other cities. And if I have anything to say about it, we never will. God bless our town, God bless our citizens, and God bless our police force. Thank you. Lucy. I have nothing to pull. I want to remind the people in Pauline that we're having a meeting tonight at Pauline Baptist Church at 630 and it'll be in the trample and it is in reference to the homes that are going to be going up across the street from the Pauline Baptist Church. It's kind of hard when you hear what just went on here. And at the moment, I really don't have anything to say about the comments made only that need to think things out before you react and I hope that people do not react negatively. I hope that things will come together and overcome this. I am with Charlotte, I will see what we can do about it and we will move forward with this. Thank you. Well, I'll echo what some of my fellow council people has already said. We stand with the citizens that have been coming to the microphone this morning. I don't use social media to stand on a platform. Typically, I go out and wish somebody happy birthday, happy anniversary, congratulations, or wish somebody prayers if they're going through tough times.

[1:01:37] The bottom line is as we need to, as Rosie said, stand behind our men and women in blue, our first responders, we need to make sure that we support all of the citizens in this great city and the division that has started I hope will will quickly heal and we can move forward on that. Town Hall meeting in the council chambers this evening at 6 p.m. for the citizens to discuss the issues of flooding issues on Avenue P and I'd like to pull item E on the consent agenda. All right, Marty. Well, I have nothing to pull. And I just, I think it's been said, I think we need to have staff. I agree with Ms. Farmer, I think we need to have staff. Tell us what can be done, what needs to be done, and need to make sure we don't take matters in our own hands and do that. Well, I am appalled by the statements that he made. I'm very proud of our community, and I feel it for the last four to five years, I think we've had more peace and harmony and unity in this city than I've ever seen before. And that's exactly the way we need to keep it. We don't need these problems between us. And I'm appalled by his comments. They should never have been made and he should have apologized immediately. So I applaud your efforts. We don't need this in our town. All right, and with that said, I will ask for a motion on the consent agenda that the items A through N with the exception of E. Move to approve the consent agenda with the exception of item E.

[1:03:37] Okay. And I do have a second from Lane. Any council discussion on this? Do I have any public comment on the consent agenda? Now that I will call for a vote, all in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed and aye. Put a 6-0 on it please Brian. Item number E is considered purchasing four 12-yard dump trucks in an amount of $416,224. From Lone Star Truck, DBA Carly Freightliner, St. Angelo, Texas budgeted an FY17, utilizing bid VMO 215, previously awarded on April 7, 2015, and authorizing the city manager designee to an execute related documents. What are your questions, Harry? Well, here we are in a down sales tax year, and we got $416 plus $1,000. I think my question basically is this. And I know this is a three or four month lead time, and you probably have 30 days to pay for this. Is there any way in the world that we can get two now and push two of these back six months? I'm really looking at ways to maximize the budget ensuring that we are all good stewards of our tax dollars. So Ryan educate me. Very good question. Ryan Kramer Superintendent of Fleet Services, good morning Council on Mr. Falzo. The answer is yes, we could do any of those things as you and the Council wish to pursue. There are some pros and cons to doing that. The pros are if we choose to purchase now, we are potentially saving quite a a bit of money. We do expect that the vendor will probably request to pull their bid, pull their amount because they, if you notice this was a 2015 bid, the vendor has agreed to that. Our contract shows that we can use that for three years. But I do know that truck prices are increasing each year. We should expect a two and a half percent increase in this pricing.

[1:05:41] We're not going to experience that. We're going to buy at 2015 prices. In short, our equipment is aging, it gets older. Every day we go by, increase costs. We don't pick out vehicles that we want to replace without just cause. We're seeing some increased expenses. We're seeing increased utilization from things such as in-house trench repair. So really, my opinion is the key moment is now to move into some new trucks while we can utilize the existing pricing from two years ago. And while we don't have any incurred expenses related to their repairs, as soon as we can get those trucks in. So again, I suggest that we move on all four now, but as for Council's purview, if we wish to purchase minimal now, we can. Just know that our maintenance costs are increasing on the trucks that we need to replace, so we'll have some expense there. Potentially, we'll miss out on this pricing. We may have to redid it, which will be a total of 5% if we had 2.5% each year, potentially 7.5% depending on when the product year models fall. And then if we don't move fairly quickly, we'll experience an emissions-related increase at probably 5%, which is government-mandated, EPA-mandated. So there are some drawbacks to waiting, but that is an option. Let me ask you this, I understand that two of these trucks that we're replacing have some needed repairs and we're choosing right now not to do that. So these trucks are not being utilized, is that correct? We have one truck that we're replacing that we actually sold last year due to some major failures. So the department's been doing without that vehicle. We have another vehicle that has parked on my facility that is not being replaced. So yes, those are accurate statements. Streamers answered all my questions. I move to approve the item as presented

[1:07:45] The motion to accept as presented I do have a second do I have public comment on this item? Yes, Mayor, I would like to ask the gentleman if what is the number of the fleet? How many how many trucks are there in the fleet and what does this represent as far as percentage of? replacement. A total worth sitting at approximately 31 of this type of truck, a dump truck. These specifically are 12-yard, but total in all sizes of dump trucks, we have about 31. And if we do the math at current today's price is $104,000 a piece, unfortunately. That's quite a bit of money if we were to replace those. So we're looking at replacing four now out of those 30. This is across again multiple funds, the water fund and general fund. Any more public comment on this item? Do I have council questions on this item? I know we'll call for the vote. The motion has been made that we accept the four trucks as presented all in favor, please say aye. Opposed nay. It is 943, I've got a request that we take just a short break and then when we come back we will start with the regular agenda. Item A on the regular agenda is consider a resolution of general support for construction of the low-income housing tax credit, LIHTC project, the trails of San Angelo by a generation housing development to construct 72-unit affordable housing apartment complex for the general public in the 2600 block of Aerostreet. This was requested by council members Farmer and Gonzales, so why don't you get us started and let's see what your, what your request did. Well, I would like to hear the presentation,

[1:09:46] but first of all, I would like to ask our city secretary to read from our policy the exceptions that we may make, so that we have that right up front, if I may, because I couldn't find it on our website. And there again, I'll be the first to admit that I am not a computer generous or an IT person. I'm very degenerate when it comes to stuff like that, and I could not find it, so I'd like for Brian to read it. And you find it, Brian. Yes, it's actually included as part of your background as well, and I believe it's on the website, and it's certainly available with neighborhood and family services that could get a copy of anybody that needs it. The part that I wanted to point you to is, first of all, I wanted to remind you that a couple of years ago, there was some concern about how we handled these sort of projects that would come forward and compete for this type of funding or these tax credits. And the city council decided at that time to adopt a policy related to how we handled these. In that policy, it states several steps that each project has to go through. We have had a couple of projects go through those processes and now we have another project that was unable to get in time to go through the steps. There is a part of the policy that is actually highlighted in your background, it's on page two of it, and it's under authority of the city, and I'll read that portion. The city of San Angelo reserves the right to deviate from any policy when it considers such action to be in the best interest of the city. That is the main, the main thing concerning this discussion today is y'all do have the ability to go forward and make a decision on this today. A resolution will have to be drafted in light of what y'all decide today, so it is not included

[1:11:48] as part of your background, but it would be similar to the resolutions that you've seen in the past in support of these items, and if you have any other questions, either Dan or I can probably answer those for you. I wanted to point out that I was one of the reasons that we had a policy is because a few years ago, these type of resolution requests were coming to us fast and furious. And when I say fast and furious, two, three, four, five, in a six-month period, and there was a confusion on my part of which project was which because of the different names of the corporation. So we had asked if we could have a written policy that all of these brought be brought to us at the same time to consider. And in my mind, in my opinion at the time, it was simply to add from confusion plus we would have the opportunity to vet these companies that were coming from out of town, out of state to do a project here in San Angelo. Now In this particular case that is before us today, this group came before us before and has been vetted before us before when they made a bid to do a project in the southwest portion of town being out on FM-2288 in the Bluffs area. So this particular group was vetted in the past and was familiar with the type project that they build. So therefore, we were already familiar. What leaves to be done, in my opinion, is of course your public meetings, which can still be done. The deadline with the state of Austin, I believe, is March 1st. They have a deadline to get the packets in. And if you don't have a resolution from your local city, the packet is just not considered.

[1:13:49] And in fairness to all builders that are out there, since there is time before March 1st. I feel like it is reasonable if it's in the best interest of the city, especially with the future growth that we anticipate from listening to the people talking Austin about the growth and the west portion of the state. There's going to be a need. There is a need now in housing, affordable housing, even for our college students, if you pay attention to the reports that Dr. Stewart puts out at ASU, that there is a definite need in San Angelo. So I don't believe that another project steps on anyone's toes, whether it's senior living, as opposed to all type living. There is room for projects here in San Angelo. There's room for more housing. So I was willing and visited with Ms. Gonzalez because this is in her district. And she knows better than I do what's needed in her district, so to have a visit with her. And with that, I would like to hear the presentation from the group. Good morning. Good morning, Mayor. Good morning, City Council. My name is Adrienne Iglesias. I'm a real estate developer and owner of Generation Housing Development. I'm here to seek your support for a housing tax credit application, the trails of San Angelo. a small real slide here. There's a little background about generation housing my company. I have over 19 years of experience in the real estate industry. We are a Texas based company with focus in urban and rural communities in the state of Texas. GHD has developed over 4,000 apartment units

[1:15:49] with a total development cost exceeding 385 million. Our mission is to develop sustainable communities that residents and city leaders can be proud of and to call up their own. Our most recent development is located in the city of Brady and is under construction with our first occupancy planned for the summer. You can tell from the slide this is exactly where the trails of Brady is located. We're right across the street from St. Margaret Church and walking distance from the entrance of Goodfellas Air Force Base. 2,600 block of forestry. Trails is a proposed 72-unit Class A service-in-rich residential development. Our common amenities include a resort-style swimming pool, controlled access gates, a playground, a gazebo, barbeque grills, and lush landscaping. Our unit amenities include 9-foot ceilings, low-flow fixtures, open floor plans, washer and dryer hookups, low e-thermal windows, ample storage, pre-wired for cable and network, and energy star appliances. Our clubhouse and leasing center will have a large community room, a full-sized kitchen, finished center, activity room, a business lounge, and a laundry room. We also provide support services for our residents. Some of the items are not, we provide more but free after school programs, computer access and tutoring and financial literacy classes and health awareness classes. I'm here to answer any questions that y'all might have. Questions Council? This is a affordable housing tax credit, your target group. What is your target group? It's hard working families. I'm working families so you're not strictly

[1:17:51] senior citizens or not? We allow senior citizens to come to our development, but we're not aged restricted. Yeah. Okay. And one of the questions I'm sure that is going to come to mine is is I understand you had difficulty on our website finding out what our policies and stuff were as far as I wasn't aware that we had a deadline, so to speak. I just knew that we had requested that all of them be brought at the same time so that we could give each one credit. We also knew that y'all had a process. We didn't know there was a deadline. Actually the rules of the program for Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs, they're not finalized until December and the governor doesn't actually sign until that first week in December. There was still a board hearing, TDHCA board hearing in December where there were numerous amounts of changes in the rules of the program which changed locations of properties. So you know we knew there was a process when we found our development got into contract and submitted a pre-application. We wanted to go through that process and it said it was too late because that started back in October and that we had to come back next year. We're in our policy, does it state, Mr. Kendrick, that there's a deadline for the St. Angelo's policy? On page one of the policy, it states the annual schedule, which is October 1, applications due to CHS. October 1 through October 30 is the evaluation period. November 1 through November 30, if it's Town Hall meetings are scheduled December 1st through December 30th City Council presentations are made January 1 through January 30 support docs are due to the developers.

[1:19:51] Oh the you're not opposed I mean I know you've you've been before because I went as an attendance at Town Hall meetings you're not opposed to before these tax credit are granted the selection problem. You're not opposed to having town hall meetings for people to attend. Absolutely. Absolutely not. We actually still have to rezone our property. We have planned to reach out to council member Gonzalez and also have the town hall meetings as well. Absolutely. Can you let us know as far as the income? What is the base of these people to be able to grant these apartments. Right, it all fluctuates with the medium household income from the city of San Angelo, but roughly for like a family of four, it'd be about $34,000. And you have the one bedroom to three bedrooms, correct? Well, we'll have one bedroom, two bedroom, two baths, three bedroom, two baths in our development, correct? You can handle students, whether it be military or university students as well as families families that come here in reading Dr. Stewart with ASU is talking about the the low-income averages for St. Angelo and the housing availability for them. I found that he's a material that he wrote his his documentation for it to be very encouraging with the other two projects that the city has done a resolution for that there is a need out there. I wanted to ask, I believe, what is the city for Mr. Dominguez, Harold Dominguez, went to in Colorado, Longmont, are y'all doing a project or had done a project? One of my partners is doing a project in Longmont, because I had talked to Mr. Dominguez, okay.

[1:21:51] Yes, ma'am. Very good. Yeah, the questions. Mayor. Yes. I can point out where it is on the website just in case anybody's looking for under departments and services. If you select neighborhood and family services, the top link on that page is community and housing support. If you click on that link, under more info is the low-income housing tax policy. It's L-I-H-T-C policy. And you can find that there. Bob, thanks. Thank you, sir. I know that we've got some policy questions here and I know that you have, you tried to keep the policies and keep everybody in line with the policies. The two that we dealt with last meeting followed all of our guidelines. I did everything they were supposed to do when we were able to approve both of them with the letter of resolution. This one came in late. This one did not meet our policy. Therefore, it's a little outside the scope and that's why we're here today. That's why we're talking about this is as to whether we want to make an exception or someone that did not bottle the policy and allow them the same opportunity. So I just wanted you to kind of talk to that before we make a decision. Well, we do have a policy. It's been in effect for two years. Like Councilwoman Farmer mentioned, she covered it pretty well. Just a point of clarification, the public forum is really to get input before we come to Council for your letter of support, not after the fact. So give you a chance to understand what citizens are thinking about this before we support it. Once you support it, it goes in, and it's maybe OBE at that point, or a moot point. I think the project is good.

[1:23:53] I mean, I've never found a affordable housing project I didn't like, so that's what I do. So it's not the nothing but the project. It's the process that we've established, and the concern for me is that we violate policy this time, it puts me in a hard place for next year. We can eliminate the policy of Council wishes, leave the way it was in the past when we went directly to Council members. We could do that, but for right now we'll have to do something with the policy if we, in fact, change it today. So that's my concern. I kind of have a problem with writing a resolution in favor of, before we even have the public hearings to realize what's going to happen. I've got a problem with that. I mean, there is a reason that we wrote the policy, and there's a reason why we have people that here to the policy, so. I've got some problems with this myself. You don't have any questions? Listen, go ahead. So you say, for instance, if we had a town hall meeting, and let's say they were against it, couldn't we just withdraw our letter, our resolution? Well, I think we could. At that point, you're right. But once you submit the application, they get graded. If for some reason, there is so much lack of support, we could come back to council and ask to retract it. That's exactly right, we sure can do that. All right, we went through this process with two other companies earlier this year. We had town hall meetings, so that the citizens in the area could ask questions and find out about what was going on. How many of these types of credits will the state approve? Locally, it's only one project will win it in our area, one. So if this particular, if we decided today not to support this

[1:25:53] at this time because it's outside of policy or whatever other reason, these people could actually come back to us in six months or a year and go through the proper channels and do what's necessary. My concern is twofold. First of all, I live closer to this place than Lucy does, even though it's in her district. It's only four or five blocks from my house. There's a low water crossing at Evelyn and Era. There's also a school crossing right at that area. And unlike the previous two that we supported, which were elderly, low, affordable home, This one is not strictly for elderly, so that means you're going to have 72-plus vehicles on that particular street, which if people will take the opportunity to go look at it, it's going to need some maintenance, some major reconstruction, possibly even put it in a bridge in that particular area because people that don't live there don't understand that when the water runs, that's the potential area for people to get grounded out on. I really personally, although the area can utilize some revitalization and this certainly were based on the background information would do that, I can't support this at this time because we really haven't had the opportunity to vet it like we have the other two that we had earlier the year. Any other comments from council? Any questions? Other comments? Thank you council. My name is Michael Fogel. I'm with Fort Corners Development. We have one of the other projects that was on the agenda last month for resolution of support. Our project is just across the river here on just across the street here on the concert river on the south side of the river. An excellent site, a very beautiful

[1:27:54] site that counsel passed the resolution of support for just last month and I'm based here in Texas although our corporate headquarters is in Springfield Missouri our company and our partner Ryan and his family and our affiliate companies have been developing here in Texas since the late 80s very active in Texas our management company actually won an award in 2013 from the USDA which is kind of a sister program to TDHCA for affordable housing management company of the year. Awarding of these tax credits is a very competitive process in which sites are scored based off of a number of factors in the census tract on which they're located. So when I first came to the city in September and started looking for potential sites based off of our knowledge of the scoring system which although was not finalized in December was public knowledge in a public forum that was accessible for people doing their research. Sites in the south and southwest portion of the city would actually score highest. If you were just looking at the scoring, you know, based off the state system, you kind of before speaking and engaging with the cities. After working closely with the city, Bob Solis included in studying that policy, the light tech policy that we're talking about, which I found out with a single phone call to Mr. Salas and also found out on the website. You learned about the city's policy, a major component of which was target revitalization areas. And in that policy and multiple directives from the city, it's clearly outlined that the city's intent is to only support projects that are in one of four targeted revitalization neighborhoods. Two of those neighborhoods are Fort Concho and Black Shear and Goodfellow Air Force Base is not one of those neighborhoods. So even though sites will score highest, you know,

[1:29:54] in a box in the southwest parts of town, you know, we're all partners in this together, especially in an affordable housing project. It's, you know, it's for our benefit as development companies, for the community's benefit, etc. So, you we're all partners so we're working together so you know our reaction to that was okay you have these targeted to revitalization areas that's your desire to support project we will go find a good well located site in one of those areas that will not only fit within the city's plan will also score high enough to get the state allocation and beat out you know not only St. Angela but beat up Midland or Dessa because there's only one award that goes the entire region And so that's what we did. And we held our neighborhood meetings and followed the rest of the process throughout that period. And this is not something that we take lightly. We have significant resources invested in that of about $100,000 to date, which does not include the real estate or the land costs or anything like that. So for that reason, I would ask that you do not support this project at this time this year. And with that, I'd like to pass sort of any questions, I guess, is the appropriate segue. That's all. I heard you say that support need in the areas. And San Angelo, Midland Odessa, are in need of affordable housing. I heard all of that. But I'm also, what I'm not hearing, Is this a competition, how often does TDCH offer these programs? Is it once a year, once every two years, once every three years? Yes, it is a competition, and it's an annual award. It's an annual award that the state looks at to grant these tax credits, which I'm being unfair to you.

[1:31:55] I've worked with TDCH in affordable housing for 20 years. So I know my answers before I ask the question, I'm not trying to trap you. I just want you to understand that and make sure we have an understanding of the rest of the council does The area that you selected when you came in was Luckily the word this is an area that you're saying that the city Guided you to go to So based off of before looking at at the city's plan based off of our understanding and interpretation of the states, it's called a qualified allocation plan. We can call it a formula. Based off of their formula for scoring, because you are in competition with not only other developers in St. Angel, anyone proposing a project in Midland or Dessa. Based off of that criteria, sites kind of in the outer south and southwest rings of this city would score the highest. However, another component in order for that score to be applicable or to get that full score, you also need the council resolution of support. And so the other critical component is that you have to get the council resolution of support. The city made it clear they only wanted to support projects targeted to revitalization neighborhood. So we then shifted to the targeted revitalization neighborhoods. And now you've got someone else coming in at the 11th hour, which I do believe is orchestrated and intentional in one of those, you know, other higher scoring areas at the state level that would beat out developers who have done their due diligence, you know, inappropriate time. Excuse me. My name is Ryan Hamilton with Four Corners Development. I think what's important is that when we go and we start to develop in a community, one

[1:33:56] One of the first places, well, the first place that we stop in at is with the city. City manager, economic development person, whoever that individual might be. And when we started this process in August and made the trip in September, that was the first place that we stopped and the first call that we made in performing the proper due diligence. It's obviously very important to us that the city is 100% behind us and we're in an area that the city would like for us to develop. I feel like we're just wasting our time because this is a true marriage between the developer and The city if if whomever might be awarded it's it's it's a marriage and it's something that Will have a lot of longevity with so I just wanted to point that out I won't I guess I'm gonna make sure I understand this the city won't support a project in southwest Is that what you were telling? Yes, sir. And that's per that's per the written policy. It's not so much excluding the Southwest. The policy states that the city would only support a project in targeted what what they're calling or what you're calling targeted revitalization areas and neighborhoods. So Bob, we couldn't have one like NAS worthy. Negative right now, we made a conscious decision. We put the policy together to focus on our neighborhood targeted for revitalization. That was the direction we were directed. We put it together. Council approved it. That's what we went. That's our policy. I'm gonna- You're on me. Did I vote for that? Yes, sir, you did. Okay. And then I want it back on the agenda. All right. I agree. I want it on the agenda before my up. We can certainly change this. change the policy. It's just that this you know 11th hour is kind of unfair I think. That is on page two of the policy. This is the first time this policy has

[1:36:00] come up or been challenged since it's been in place been done. So with any and everything there's always bugs in the system to work out. What I don't want to do is penalize the needs of the people in San Angelo. Policies are made to guidelines to follow, and I totally disagree. I never understood that there would only be one shot, one meeting in the entire year that a developer could bring their project. Understanding the way the state works, their reviews, and when they released October, November, December, I would think anytime in January or February before the March 1st deadline that any developer would be able to bring a project our policy should be flexible enough to meet those developers shame on us but we're not locked in to that hard and fast rule what we are locked into and I do agree with doing on this is the people wanting to hear from the people and I am not opposed one bit to rescinding revoking or taking away an authorization as long as it's something that I feel the people do want if they don't want it they're against it and we'll take it off the table because I listen to the people but I'm also listening to the state and what their demands and what they think the future especially of San Angelo where we're going with our military and if a project a decent housing project such as the one that we co-partnered the private community partnership in the housing project it's right on down the street there that we did a few years ago, greatly benefited the city and our position with the military, knowing that we have got that housing available for students is key. Bob, do you find that other communities have these policies and procedures in place as well with deadlines? Are we unique to that? I mean, is that something that you don't see? Some do.

[1:38:03] We chose to put it together. The reason we do it early is to make sure we vet it correctly, make sure we have the infrastructure looked at, make sure we can accommodate this site and to get the public input. That's what we do it so early. I guess what I'm asking is, does a developer understand that there are deadlines, some communities have deadlines? Is that something that's understood by the developers? Is that something that's new to you? Remember when we first started this, we didn't have any deadlines. We basically did it as they came in. We vetted them. My direction was to put a policy together, put them together, come one time to council with all of the projects in hand. So vet it, properly vet it, and probably comment those kind of things. One meeting per year. One meeting per year, yes. Which I find totally unreasonable, same on us. Leer, that's really up to council how they want to do it. If my direction was to put it together, we did. That's the policy. And since we did approve the policy, we haven't established the second year. I just lost my concern is that we are now violating it the last minute, so. So. Point of clarification to Council Member Self's question. The policy states that therefore, in general, the city of St. Angelo will give preference to a project that is located in one of the areas targeted for revitalization as identified in the city's neighborhood revitalization plan. It only says preference will be given. One more comment, please. I think the issue is not just the one meeting per year, which I think Councilman Farmer makes a valid point about, it's the intent of the policy and following the directives from the city. So if this other project was in one of the targeted revitalization neighborhoods, I think it would be a different debate, but it just seems like a blatant disregard for the intent and the procedures in place.

[1:40:04] Council, if I may briefly summarize our position. My name is Connor Bateman. I'm legal counsel to Four Corners Development. I'm with Shackleford Bowen, McKinley and Norton in Dallas. As you've heard this morning, the developer that's before the council asking for this is clearly in violation of the city's own policy. They have frustrated the intent of the policy. They're just starting the process so late that it's almost impossible to complete these timelines competently before the applicable state deadlines. As Council Member Farmer mentioned, March 1st is the application deadline to the state of Texas. For them to conduct the requisite town hall meetings and other due diligence that they would require, hypothetically, if there were negative feedback received, it would be almost impossible for the Council to comply with the Open Meetings Act laws and come back and hold a meeting in time to rescind anything that had been issued today before the state application submission deadline next week. That's the whole purpose and intent behind the city's policy to start this process earlier. As you heard from four corners, how early they started this process last year going directly to Mr. Solis with the city to ask specifically what the city's requirements were behind the policy and look at the city. So most notably, this developer is in violation of the policy for at least two primary reasons First, they're behind on the timelines, severely. And the policy itself has proposed timelines in the policy, specifically on page one. So firstly, they are behind there. Secondly, they're clearly outside of the targeted revitalization neighborhoods that are put in place by the city today. Those were the targeted revitalization neighborhoods in place by the city of San Angelo at the at the time that four corners commenced this process, and that is what they operated under.

[1:42:05] At this late day, it would frustrate the intent of the city's own policy to allow a third developer to come in this late and be granted an exception when two other developers have complied with the policy. It would frustrate the intent of the policy. We believe it would set a negative precedent in the future for applications next year, in the years that follow if one developer has held to a different standard than others. We certainly appreciate the council's time and the council's consideration of this matter. Thank you. Okay. First of all, Mr. Mayor, I truly take offense to the term, strong terms, of violate policies are not ordinances, it's a guideline. And I do believe the President of the United States just asked Congress to change their policy so that someone of less than seven years out of retirement in the military could serve as one of his council members, it's a flexible, we're supposed to be flexible up here. As long as we're not messing with the ordinances, you know, I want to be flexible to the needs of San Angelo. What I see in here, you're coming in using strong language such as violate and talking about a third developer, in all actuality you're talking about diluting your chances for us to take in another person. That's a third person that can go into the pool that the state will look at because their packet is complete. If they receive something from the council with recognition for this letter that they're requesting today. They'll submit their packet which puts another person in competition for the same dollars that you're vying for. That's a correct statement. I'm not up here to decide

[1:44:10] what's competitive. I simply asked for this policy a couple years ago so that we could review them basically all at the same time. I didn't necessarily mean the same day, one council meeting in a year's time but I think as these things come up before the March date you know anytime in January and February is acceptable and that's what I thought was in the policy myself so I'm going to make that clarification since I was here and I was a part of putting the policy in place. I want to be flexible as to what is in the best interest for the citizens of San Angelo and safe affordable decent housing is in the best interest of the people of St. Angelo. I'm not here to compete or I don't have a dog in this spot with either three of the companies. I know each company has been vetted by this council or previous councils in the past and found their work to be acceptable. So that's all I have to say about that. I'm kind of taking charge mayor doesn't feel good here. So no, I'm getting tired at least if you can. Okay. You're up next there. How dare you Mr. Mayor and City Councilman. My name is Glenn Lynch. I am I was a resident of San Angelo for many years. 30 years ago, I built good fellow housing out by the lake, still on 70 acres out there, a partner mind Bobby Cox, those roses cafe here. Right now I'm currently developing 236 lot subdivision out by the lake. So I was asked by Adrian with Generation Housing to join his group. I have built over 5,000 low income housing tax credit units over the years. And on this particular Dale, I understand other developers trying to limit the

[1:46:14] competition, which you were exactly, that's what a lot of this is about, but I would like to address a couple of issues about why you couldn't support it and why I would request that you do support it. One of the primary things that was brought up by this gentleman also, Ms. Farmer, was that it's in the best interest of the City Council, a best interest of the City of San Angelo. Three months ago I was building as while we were building this development about two and a half months ago. My boy, local banker, which I'm sure you know, approached me knowing that I built good fellow housing and told me that, hey, good fellow housing, the base commander at good fellow housing was wanting to get some more housing available for his troops that were affordable housing. But the government regulations has got it so that he can't do the purchase program for maybe seven to ten years down the road. He was willing to ask me if there was a way that we could try to do that. I told him that I would try to work with him and doing that and I still have some ideas to do that. They base actually on some land over here by trying to help them do that through some means. But when this came up, two of the projects that are actually being submitted here are elderly developments. This This development here is a family housing development. There's a big difference because I think it would be in the best interest of the city at this point in time to have a family housing development in an area close to the base that you could put some of those in. When Adrian asked me to join this group, I agreed to join it under one condition. That condition was that if you build truly quality housing, I have built a lot of quality housing. I've seen that the RFPs and the state of Texas rewritten because of the quality of housing that I built. I told him I wouldn't want to build something. It didn't have granite tops and tile floors, something that I myself would live in. I've lived in some of my mixed unit, low income developments. I've lived in one of them for 10 years. And so I believe in quality housing.

[1:48:16] I believe in affordable housing. You start talking about things like revitalization areas. And you talk about revitalization areas. You can talk about qualified census track. You can talk about tax zones. And a lot of cities will want to preference something to go into that area. But it's never, as this gentleman, Marty, just, Mr. Self just did. It's never limited to that area, because if you've limited to that area, all of a sudden it's not revitalization, that's called discrimination. That's trying to put a bunch of people that don't make as much money in one area, and there's a federal law against that. You can go to Dallas, they've been sued over. You can go to some of the big cities. So you can try to revitalize an area. Now, my personal opinion is, and I'm not against these gentlemen, I don't usually speak against other people's stuff, but I've reached that age where I qualify for those senior housing, and the only thing good about it is that I'm one day closer to my Lord, but the other side of it is I don't think you put a hundred people on me down in revitalization, I don't know that it'd be revitalized very much at my age, you know, but in my personal opinion, When you start talking about public hearings, you have to understand the process here if y'all Award or come up with a resolution where you do this you're still gonna have public we still have a lot of work to do I talked also to a Drew Darby who's a state representative everyone these gentlemen here as well as ourselves We're gonna have to have a letter from new Darby if we expect to win I called Drew and I personally talked to him and told him hey Drew I want to know if you'll support this deal. He said, Glenn, if you go for the city council, I'll look at it. Last week, I was told he had not even written any letters. And he was going to write those letters after all the hearings from the city council and that done. And I explained to him, it's not like you don't have a chance. If you give this support, you don't even have to withdraw your council. You don't ever have to withdraw your deal. If you want to kill this deal, this side has to still come before you for zoning.

[1:50:17] The fact is the tax credit cannot be awarded if the site's not zoned. That has to happen before the tax credits get awarded. So that will be an immediate process. If y'all elect not to award zoning, that deals dead anyway. So you have another chance to do that. All you're doing is allowing for a different kind of project, which is a family housing project, which in my personal opinion, is probably better for the city. It's easy for these gentlemen to say, well, hey, you know what, bring it back next year. because you can just bring it back next year and that'll be okay. What they don't mention and they didn't mention is that Odessa and Midland are also on this district. You know what, cities can arrange to get more points in their areas. If you were to go to Midland next year, you were to go to Odessa and they would say, hey, you know what, we're gonna take home funds and we're gonna give you several million dollars. You just jumped the points up so all of a sudden, out of maybe one deal that gets awarded in this area, this area, Midland, Odessa, San Angelo probably only get one this year. It'll probably come to San Angelo. But what if Midland gives four million dollars or five million to a home fund next year or one of the others or Odessa does? Well you know what San Angelo could go three or four years not get a deal. I mean so it's not a matter of saying well hey you know what let's move it down the road. All I'm saying is that if you were to ask this resolution today you still have a chance to kill it by zoning by not them into property. Adrian, myself, we still have our work to do. You know what? Every deal that you do, and it don't matter where they're built, you have the nimbe, it's not in my backyard attitude, and you have to convince people that, hey, you're developing a quality development, and with that development, you want people that's going to live there and be a part of the community, and my personal opinion is that this will be a quality development. That was the deal that I have with Adrian to join this team and I can tell you this out of everybody here I'm the only one I got more roots in San Angelo than any of them although I don't live here now but I do have those roots

[1:52:21] I still own good fellow housing I still own that land out there been paying taxes here for 30 something years so I would respectfully request that you ask this resolution now understanding we still have to have our public hearings and we still have time to do that and in my opinion it's in the best interest of the city but that's my opinion and I appreciate you listening to me. Thank you Mr. Mayor, Council. My name is Paul Holden and I represent Zimmerman Properties. I'm going to try to be the calming force because these other two developers are my colleagues and we compete against each other every year in different areas not just in San Angelo of course and we're all at after the The competition is over. We all sit and have a drink, smoke a cigar, and talk about things, but during the competition it gets very intense. The reason for that is that at this particular point for every $1 of funding that's going to be available through the TDHCA, there's $10 chasing it. So everyone gets in a bit of a frenzy during this time. Now I did come in front of you in October and we were told these were the rules. the dates and and here's where you're going to need to be located and we did go through those. Mr. Mayor, you and I have had conversations about diversifying and spreading tax credits across the different parts of the city and how to do that and I think you have a very good point. However, what's happening right now is the reason the applicant is coming in front of you is that there are three cities within this sub-region for housing tax credits, San Angelo, Midland, and Odessa. Now the rules, as Mr. Galacius did say earlier, the rules are signed by the Governor in December.

[1:54:23] We have to start our site selection process in September in order to get ahead of the curve. The rules are not out there. We have to make educated guesses as to where we're going, what we're doing, and it is going cost money. And so I spent a lot of time in middle and endo-desa looking for sites but it wasn't until November 1st that the TDHCA put out notification that those two cities were not considered disaster areas. Now one of the scoring criteria for and it's a 10-point scoring criteria is if you're in a disaster area which follows the counties then you get ten points. St. Angelo gets those ten points. Middle of Odessa do not get those ten points. As a result, people like myself, which I was in St. Angelo and other cities, then you come back to the city that's going to score the most points. We have one applicant that was late in making that decision. We're going to respect any decision that the council has to make, but what happens is that when you start early and have to make subjective decisions on site selection, and the city says, here are our rules, then that has a big impact on where you go and where you select your site, which is what the two developers have done. Given another situation, would we have gone to a different part of the city? We probably would have because the leasing would be substantially different other parts of the city. Now what I'm asking you to do this morning is let's take a breath for the moment and take a look at logistically and logically what what we have in front of us right now and the question you have in front of you right now is you have two developers have already made a submission and by the way

[1:56:23] I want to let you know that my application is a family application is not not elderly. We have another applicant that has an elderly application. But what we have to look at is just the, I guess it's a question of disenfranchisement because not only did we have two developers here, but you had two other developers that asked to come in and be considered for a resolution that were told, no, you're too late, you're going to have to come back next year which they politely said thank you we'll be back next year and so given that situation I am asking you to follow the rules that we had been put under since earlier this year and let's go forward now what I'd like to do and I have made this offer to you twice I would love to sit down with your planning staff and community development staff and do some worksmithing to your rules so that we can, the needs of the cities and the wants of the city council that we can help and help you understand the wants and needs of the development community. There has got to be a marriage between the two for us all to work together. Unfortunately, I've been doing this for 21 years, which is far too long to be in this business and I do qualify for the elderly housing and I tell you what I'm thinking next year that might be a damn good idea because I'm getting tired of the fights and this is one of the this is one of the nicer fights because I had threatened my competition if anybody gets up and and start saying dirty words then we're gonna have to talk. I didn't really say that I'm kidding but I appreciate your concern I'm gonna sit down now but I would just like for you to consider that I would like for you to go forward with the two applications that we have next year throughout the year let's start the planning process and work together so we can have something really really good

[1:58:25] for this coming year. Thank you very much. Do you have any questions? I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you. Any more public comment? Council have any further questions? I don't have any further questions. I suppose we're at the point where you need a motion. It isn't my district but I will make the motion that we approve for the resolution if I don't receive a second and that's where it stays. I will second it. You have a motion and a second that we accept the late-comer and lady men. Any other questions from council? I got some real problems with this. I like building a house and then asking for a permit but just to be a recratic rule. Call for the All in favor please say aye. Aye. All opposed. Aye. See you nays. Nays win. It did not pass. Let's move on to item number B. Consider the following items related to Solid Waste Services. Authorizing city manager designated to negotiate and execute all related documents. Number one, second public hearing and adoption, but ordinance remaining section A8017, charge for collection of garbage and trash, okay? Thank you, Mayor, Council. Just get started here with a real quick recap of what we did back in January, that way everybody is fresh on their minds since we've had another meeting lap since then. The contract items to be amended, of course, on the residential collection service, We're going to maintain the one time per week trash collection. And we would go to an every other week recycling collection, along with an every other week bulk pickup collection.

[2:00:26] So alternating weeks with bulk and then recycling. Moving on, the contract amendment also allows for the customer service center to utilize the centralized customer service center. and two new services were added. One for a four yard, four cubic yard temporary container for residential cleanup. Again, this is not for construction cleanup, but for this general house cleanup. And then a 15 cubic yard roll off, which is a smaller container to be allowed for commercial use to be putting that in our fee schedule. Additional fees that we would allow for through the new contract amendment And then in our new fee schedule is for an over 10 ton industrial charge for over 10 tons on the industrial roll-off. So $50 per ton. So when somebody loads a roll-off container over the legal weight limit, then they can back charge for whatever that overage tonnage is. And then an extra yardage fee for commercial containers that are overloaded. So any commercial container that is overfilled and spilling off into the ground, they can take a picture of that. And then there's also an extra yardage fee for that as well, too. One of the, in the motion that was made to accept the contract amendment and contract changes was with the caveat of that there would be a half ton tipping fee or up to a half tonne tipping fee at the landfill versus the one tonne minimum, be basically a half-ton minimum at the landfill. We sat down with Republic and they agreed to that. What they agreed to would be 0 to 1,000 pounds, be charged at half of the current tipping fee and then everything over 1,000, so 1,001 to 2,000

[2:02:29] pounds would be charged at the one-ton tipping fee. And then everything greater than 2,000 pounds is pro-rated to actual weight currently as it stands now. And of course we'll just quickly I mean we've already discussed these but this is the for the appendix for the fee schedule these are these are what we're adding the thirty dollars per current for the extra yards for commercial ten ton limit fifty dollars per ton again we're adding us in the schedule the four-yard temporary container the 15 cubic yard roll-off container and the prices associated with those and again we will add in the appendix language the language of the half basically a half ton minimum at the at the landfill and then the one time tipping fee at the landfill that language is added into the appendix schedule or fee schedule and then also the second reading again for the ordinance change that allows for the continued misuse of the recycling cart if that can do you need two votes on this chain or yes we do it on it I think we need one item A and then B. And this is item B, isn't it? This is, and I have a couple more slides, but again, this is where the city can work with Republic to remove the container if people continue to abuse the recycling container and put non-recycling items in it. And so recommendations, our recommendation for the first, for your first motion is the fee schedule to amend the fee schedule. Second public hearing to amend the fee schedule, which again, these are just bulleted how lots of the changes that will be added to the fee schedule. I was very, they're very quick. So if you have any questions, please ask. I was just. We've been over this. We've been, we've been working on this for months. So I think everybody knows what it's about. Questions? Yes. The effective date. Is it still April 1? April 1. If, if, if we move forward today, it's April 1.

[2:04:30] If we don't move forward today than that. I mean, we need to get this in place before mowing season and it's, I had a mow last week, it's already started. So we need to get those wet bags of Zika virus clippings out of our yards. Notifications will go out before I prefer stuff, right? Yes, we will, starting this week, we will start putting inserts into the utility building statements. I just have a quick question. I just wanted to ask, are we ever gonna get on the glass recycling or anything like that? We'll have to look at that as we move into the future. Again, there's, of course, a lot of issues with glass. I know it weighs a lot, but for recyclers, it's just not, there's no money in glass, basically. And so it's hard to get rid of. It's hard to sell as a commodity. So it's one of those things that we can look at it in the future, and maybe as if other communities within West Texas will, you know, they come on board and they start a curbside recycling programs and we can kind of gather our all momentum from a West Texas group, a regional group, then that may become more viable at that time. I'll entertain a motion. Move to approve as presented. Do I have a motion and a second to approve this as presented? Do I have any further questions of council and this is for six be one yes that is the first item area is that correct is that correct on your second yes okay this is for the first item public comment on this item all in favor please say aye opposed nay but a 6-0 only item number two is the second public hearing and adoption of an ordered submitting section 1104 double six duties with residential customer and And this has to do with we will remove their cart if they continue to if they abuse the

[2:06:30] recycling program. And I think it's time because we're losing a lot of recycles because of corruption. So I'll entertain a motion on this one. I'll have a second. I'll have a second from Lane. Any further questions from Council? Public comment on this item. All in favor please say aye. Opposed nay, but a 6-0 on that one. Thank you very much Shane Adam C is the first public hearing of an ordinance amending chapter 7 health and sanitation section 705.006 Prohibition of smoking and outdoor sports areas and 705.08 We're smoking not regulated at the code of ordinances providing for severe ability and an effective date Carl your own sir. Yes, sir We were asking council to approve a first rating of this proposed ordinance amendment The Parks Recreation Advisory Board one of the members asked that the board Discussed this matter and we began discussing it last fall and had three meetings where we discussed this matter and made a board made a Final recommendation that you see before you In concerning the existing ordinance related to the prohibition of smoking in parks It's smoking is prohibited in the seating areas of all outdoor sports arenas, stadiums and amphitheaters. Smoking is prohibited in the seating areas of golf courses and public parks where people are assembled to witness sports or other events. And the current concerns that we have heard, we have heard general health concerns from safe parks for our kids in Angelo, as well as the Alcohol and Drug Abuse Council for the Consul Valley. Valley. We've also had frequent complaints about the cigarette butt litter in the parks even from one of the previous council members complaining about it. The

[2:08:30] board looked at what other cities were doing in terms of prohibition of smoking in the parks and it ranged from doing nothing at all to a complete ban of smoking in the parks and so reasoning led the board to kind of the middle ground which you see before you board recommendation that you see before you passed a vote of five to one the dissenting vote was because the motion did not include a ban of a prohibition of smoking in parking areas in the parks what you see before you in terms of the recommendation the amendment would include a prohibition of smoking within 50 feet of park amenities this would include playgrounds, pavilions, the Bosque area, tennis courts, volleyball areas, and areas like that. Smoking would be prohibited within the fence enclosed areas around swimming pools, and this ordinance only relates to public park properties, public, the city owned properties, not private park properties. would be would not be prohibited at the parks at Lake Nazworthy in terms of enforcement of course who would have to put a signage at these amenities like at the playgrounds and pavilions letting folks know that smoking isn't wouldn't be authorized allowed within 50 feet of those amenities and in terms of enforcement it would be complaint based if somebody called the police and noticed somebody smoking in one of these areas they would they could call the police and follow that complaint, so the police could respond. And the thought is, we think with time, the culture would change and people would be basically self-policing this ordinance. So that is the requested ordinance amendment.

[2:10:31] If there's any questions? Harry? Carl, just a quick clarification, because I know that there are still people in this community that smoke And they always look for areas that are outside and outside of crowd gatherings. So I want to make sure that we still allow these people that portion of their life, whether they call out enjoyment or whatever it is, to be done in not hamper them without repeating on somebody else's right to be clear of smoke so does this ordinance do that allow that yes it actually that's a good point because if you look at all the acreage that we have within the city parks in town because it doesn't apply to the Lake Nesworthy parks there's still is the vast majority of acreage in those parks where folks could smoke if you imagine the red or red trail basically everywhere except the dark parks folks will be able to smoke and also all the the other open areas in the parks. Can you clarify one more time about the existing ordinance? Right now, it is banned in parks. Does that, did I hear that correctly? It's really only limited to the seating areas of all outdoor sports arenas, stadiums, and amphitheaters. So it's like the river stage, the Texas Bank Sports Club complex, the seating areas. And right now they're recommended would be 50 feet around the amenity. So that's including the seating, the playground equipment, basketball court, anything like that. Right. Activity areas and seating areas. I'm going to take Brown Park. You and I are familiar with that one. 50 feet, you could find a spot right in the middle of the park that is away from each one

[2:12:34] of those. Is that a smoking area? that be yes they could smoke at that point because there's a playground there's a tennis court there's a backstop so yes if you imagine the park sort of the the center of the park and the northwest corner of the park they would they could smoke on that spot and be 50 feet away yes sir okay near the questions council and need a motion. Motion to approve is presented. Do I need a second? One more question. What could we do to include the way they would not be able to smoke on that running area? Let's say on the baseball field because that's a lot of grass area. That's not going to be included in that 50 feet away from the amenities at that point. Someone's right in the middle trying to enjoy their day And they're looking for an ordinance that's going to prevent someone coming walking up straight to him and lighting one up. Is there something that's covering that now that I'm just not seeing or? I don't think there is. And that gets extremely hard to enforce. Forcing it from even the building perspective is one thing. It's going to have to be sort of self-enforced. And we can put signage up about that around those facilities stating, you know, here's the rules. rules, but just out in the middle somewhere and then getting within 50 feet of me and having a picnic out there, it's hard to word something like that. I don't think it currently covers it at all, does it, Carl? It doesn't cover that at all currently. No, but I mean, if it's an area where one of those defined amenities or where people are gathered for practices or play, the ordinance says we're in 50 feet of practice.

[2:14:43] park amenities, including but not limited to tennis courts, playgrounds, restrooms, volleyball courts and miniature golf courses. Within the scope of that, you'd have to assume that the small field is an amenity, as a tennis court might be or a playground. We'd come within the scope that the whole baseball field is covered under that scope. The playing field would be covered. That covered what you're talking about? There's some wording issues that I still have questions about because at that point you could probably assume that the entire park at that point is a soccer field. We're going to run into some problems at that point to enforce. to say you cannot smoke on this, and they're going to ask why. I'm not opposed to, you know, saying you can't smoke in a park, but the enforcement of that's going to be a problem. That's what I'm trying to get at, if you're considering that in a minute. This is the first public hearing, Carl. I mean, if there's any changes to the wording, it could be done before the next meeting as well. All right, so that's something you could take a look at. If you're not laying it, you're not comfortable with that. Again, this is the first reading, we can make some changes. I mean, this is a good start to help the smoking issue in our parks, I'm liking it. Would it help if we also included identify amenities? Identify other amenities like practice fields or competitive fields, soccer fields, football fields, baseball fields. where non-smokers are not affected, right? Be more explicit about that, okay.

[2:16:43] There's a motion on the floor, I'm waiting on a second. No second. None of the motion and the second, we approve this. Any other questions from Council? The motion was to approve as presented if you wanted to make changes to that language, it might need to be part of the motion. Harry made the motion. The motion is to approve as presented. So if Lane needs to make a change on that, then I'm going to allow him to do that. What's there's presented Lane, is that two seconds? I'll second it. Okay. It's still a good start. Okay. Public comment. We can clear up the language of amenities later. Yes. Good morning. My name is Ray Valadez from the Alcohol and Drug Abuse Council for the Contra Valley. I work on behalf of the prevention program, so we provide education and resources, particularly for youth alcohol and drug prevention and we're just kind of here to give our support for this amendment for the ordinance. This has kind of been on our radar since about 2014. We have a group of young leaders called Youth Cares in the summer of 2015. We did an environmental scan so we went to Unidad Park and the youth there found about, took photos and found about a hundred cigarette buts a little bit over that. Within the playground area, the porta potties, the sidewalks, et cetera. And so it is a concern and obviously for us and what we do, it's a health concern and we want to promote being healthy and getting outdoors and doing things with your kids and not having to be around secondhand smoke. And so I understand that there are some issues with the wording, but we are here in support for the amendment. So thank you. Any further public comment? Call for the vote.

[2:18:44] in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Aye. I think I'm going to nay it as well. And we are taking people's rights away every time we have a meeting. So let's put a 4-2 on that one. Item number D is considered the following items related to the dis annexation of properties generally located north of FM 380 and east of US Highway 67 and 277 and authorization for the city manager to negotiate and execute any related documents. You want me to read all of this, John? All one, two, and three? Can we do it in one motion? I think you're gonna have to vote on each one separately, but we're gonna discuss it all at once. Okay, well, let's just do number one then. First reading and public hearing for an ordinance. Okay, and this is all related to the disannexation that was requested by the county that we talked about last time. This is the area, the area where they've got proposed jail you can see here it is right at the edge of the city limits this is the current city limits and so then they would be removing this entire area there so we'll basically be doing three things the first is the first reading of the ordinance that actually would just annex the property there would be an amendment to the memorandum of understanding that already exists with the county and that relates to sewer line and then finally a development agreement that basically outlines a number of things about how that property will be treated going forward. For example, well actually I'll get into those, we have those slide here. There's the survey of properties that's just required to define exactly what property we're talking about. So the first amendment to the MOU, again I'm just going to go through all three items but again you'll have to vote on them individually. This is regarding reimbursement

[2:20:48] from Costa DC for half the construction costs incurred by the county. They're extending a long sewer line to get to the jail property and it also benefits the industrial park and so it's a cooperative effort with the Costa DC and it does require an advance in the sum of $4,000 as part of that. and then there's this inter-local development agreement it basically says that there's a term of four years that we won't re-annex the property they they won't ask to be re-annexed we'll agree not to re-annex them for at least four years again that's related to the sewer grant it reaffirms the MOU that just talked about it also confirms that they will continue to develop the property in conformance with the plan development zoning that is currently on the property. Once the property goes outside the city limits they're technically no longer required to follow any city ordinances but as part of this development agreement with the county they have agreed to continue to abide by basically all those rules that are currently in place inside the city. The next bullet is related to that basically they'll only use it as a county jail facility and other ancillary things that are in that concept plan for that plan development. City will provide inspection services for the construction of the facility just like we would if it were inside the city limits so we'll do that as a courtesy to them to help ensure that building is constructed according to our building codes. The city will allow this to service the property with utilities even though it's outside the city limits. The city currently has a policy of not providing water and sewer service outside the city limits. In order to get that service you have to ask to be annexed into the city. This agreement would say that the county could continue to get water and sewer service even though the properties outside the county. The other piece of that is normally if you do make

[2:22:52] an exception and authorize water and sewer service outside the city limits, there is an additional fee for that. The water and sewer costs are I think it's 50% more. So 1.5 times the the in-city rate if you get water and sewer service outside the city as a surcharge. The county has asked to waive that surcharge and basically pay the in-city rate for water and sewer. So again today there are three actions. One is the first vote on the disannexation of the property as well as an amendment to that MOU and approval of the developers agreement and I say approval what you're actually authorizing is the city manager to negotiate and and finalize these documents with the county. All right I need a motion on the first one which is the approval of disannexation, Lucy I got yours I have a second I'll second you have a second from Lane do I have any questions on this. Sorry. Why? Why are they wanting to be disadvantaged? There's some state money, there's some state grant money that they're able to get to help the building of the prison if we were DMX. So they still want city rights on water out of the outside, I mean, out of facility outside the city limits. Just to also clarify a little more that that grant that they're receiving is for infrastructure, which also benefits the city. And I didn't go through all of the background and I realize you were at the last meeting and so that's where we, this first came up, basically the county is eligible for a $400,000 sewer grant. I trust my fellow council members in what they're telling me and I certainly trust Rick so don't repeat it all for me, I can read the follow up. I just, and having trouble with that getting a city rate on the rotting, on the water, on and out of city limits

[2:24:52] property, I, I do have a problem with that. That is our normal policy. I think in this case, the reason they're considering it differently is because of this benefit from the sewer line. And also because the city is a, a partner sort of to say with the jail facilities and that we utilize those as well and have an agreement with the county in that regard. Mr. Mayor, Mr. City Manager, you're comfortable with that? Yes, ma'am, I have a question. I'm totally in support of giving them the water. It's current rate without marking it up, but I thought that I didn't think that was a policy. I thought that was an ordinance. Yes. I mean, I thought legally we can't do it. I'm in support of doing it, but. Water rates are specified in an ordinance, and if that's what the Council's desire is, we'll need to follow up on that. That would be something for- Make an exception and change it. I think we can go back and look at this. I think as part of the discussion, my understanding was that we could do that through a development agreement. There's a provision in the code relating to the disannexation at once, the county's disannex. There's a commitment not to reenex for a period of time, state code provision that permits those kind of contracts, then all of the terms and conditions that are going to apply in the interim regulating how it's developed and the purpose of those terms and conditions are permitted because there is this contract or agreement with the county and so that is covered, it is permitted under state law to cover that. Okay. Marty, I can think of a deal here about a year and a half, two years ago in the north end of town where we did provide water

[2:26:55] outside the city limits. I can remember that hadn't been, but that hadn't been but a year and a half, two years ago. Yeah, I'm not that strong. What I'm saying is, I thought by ordinance we had to charge the 50% increase, but I understand what you're saying Dan, so I'm good with the 10. All right. I do have a motion. I do have a second that we just and X. I need a vote. Any public comment on this? All in favor, please say aye. All opposed nay. Item number need of a motion now for approval of the first amendment to memorandum of understanding. Move second motion and the second. Any questions? Public comment. All in favor, please say aye. Opposed name. And they'll need a motion for approval of the inter-local development developers agreement. I do have a second from Lane. Questions? Public comment? All in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. I believe we've got all three of them John. Thank you sir. Item E is the first public hearing of an ordinance amending Appendix A fee schedule, Article A9000 planning and related fees by repealing in its entirety, Section A9009 fees for signed placement or erection, amended Section A9007, miscellaneous planning fees to provide for adjustment of certain fees, in addition to fees for additional planning services, providing severe ability and an effective date. Morgan. Morning Council, we have our first slate of fee review items to bring to you. We'll have more next agenda. But the first one before you, of course, is as you mentioned, planning items. We have three fees recommended for increase. We have two fees that did not exist before. They were services provided at no cost that we are recommending implementing a cost at this time.

[2:28:56] You'll note, under the estimated cost of service for each of these items, we're not quite covering the cost of service on these items, But it's our intent to smooth the impact to our customers, that for example, for the request of easement release, the current fee is $300, the cost of service is $650 based on current staffing, but we're proposing the fee go to $500. So as we have done in previous fee reviews, we're intending to have progress towards covering costs for these items which are driven by a specific customer. Of course, request for street name change, proposing an increase from $250 to $500. The application for a certificate of appropriateness within a historic overlay, proposing increase from $100 to $350. And the next two items are the new fees application for disannexation, implementing a fee of $600. And the last item, their newspaper advertisements, only some of our applications require a public notice in the standard times. We're recommending implementing a fee for only those items and reinvesting it in planning's budget to pay that bill. It would simply be an increase in revenue and expense. And for that one in particular, you'll notice in our sister cities, they just included in our other fees. It was our intent to only pass that fee along for applicants who generated that need. We didn't wanna just pass that fee along to all applicants across the board. Other fee information there as well, it's difficult to really compare apples to apples since there is so much difference in how these fees are done. But for example, for the request for easement release, we're proposing that fee at $500 because that covers our cost of service. The rest of the survey information is there, and of course in your background, but varies greatly across our sister cities. The financial impact would be $600 for the request of easement release, $500 for a request of name change down for each of those. The last one, newspaper advertisements,

[2:30:57] We do expect that in a normal year we would have $4,500 in revenue, again, that would be tied exactly back to an expense, revenue neutral to the general fund for that item. We also recommend a removal of several fees just to clean up the language in the code. These items here, wall signs, portable signs, all of these items related to signs are duplicated in Section A 2009, so we would recommend removing them from this section of the code at this time. And that is it for planning. Need a motion? No move. Need a second. Second. Any questions? Public comment? All in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Nay. I hear a nay. One nay. I'm going to go with you on that one. I think we're getting these fees too high. I'm tired of raising the rates on our citizens. So it would be a 4-2 on this one as well, but it does pass for the 4-2. If you have one question relating to when you bring up the schedule for other cities, what are we doing different for, which tall falls to be able to do it for 100, or are they that far behind? Are they not implemented increases, or are they doing it in a different way to where they can afford $100, addling $400, just taking that easement release for an example. I defer to John James to speak to how their departments operate specifically, but I will say that kind of across the board when we look at our sister cities, Wichita Falls has not adopted the same initiative that we have to charge appropriate fees for customers who are driving the cost of service, that their fees we have found in several instances are very nominal.

[2:32:57] That's really it. I can't imagine that it only cost Wichita Falls $100 to process these. It's just that they're not passing on that full cost. It's being subsidized by the taxpayers, basically. I do want to point out as well, we've had a discussion in the past. These are reviews that are being done on the early basis. The planning department, as far as planning fees, planning falls on the general fund. Any time that we're not looking at the cost of providing the service and we leave that cost below that cost of providing service. The general fund actually ends up suvisidizing that fund. And that's what our biggest concern is, that we don't want to take on the general fund. We want to make sure that we're applying it to the business or the developers where it should be. And that's the reason why these fees are coming before you. All right, item number F, we're through with that one, is the first public hearing and to consider an ordinance amending Appendix A fee schedule article The building and construction-related fees, Section A-2-001, general provisions, restating subpart C, building valuations and repeating subpart D inspections and permits in the ETJ, amending Section A-2-002, building permit fees, restating subpart F, expedited plan review fees, and adding subpart G, intermodal container placement fees, amending Section A-2-004, miscellaneous permit fees by the stating sub-part D, 30-day partial or temporary occupancy permit, the mending section A2 O.O.9, sign permit fees by adding sub-part E, public event banners fee, mending section A2 O.O. General fees by adding sub-part G, fee for appeals from building officials to the Board of Adjustments and Appeals, mending section A2 O.O.O.2 permit extensions by restating said section to provide for permit

[2:34:57] renewals. Repealing section a two oh one three licensing electrical. I need to read that again or that get it. I think you got it Mary. Morgan. Thank y'all. Permits is also in the general fund and so we seek to cover costs there where appropriate what you have before you are two new fees for existing services items we've provided before at no cost. And also two new items from the new intermodal ordinance that was adopted recently. So the first item before you is construction board of adjustments and appeals are cost to provide that service is $70.69 primarily driven by staff time spent on that and we would propose the fee at $70. The next item there is the downtown banner fee. We currently issue permit for folks who want to put a downtown banner over Beauregard and we just wanted to recoup our cost for providing that. A nominal amount of staff time we're proposing it at $15. A lot of the reason driven by why we want to implement this fee is because we need a better policy in place on what's allowed to happen with those downtown banners whereby we are going to also develop an internal policy where we make sure folks are taking care of our infrastructure, the polls change ropes and all that we have installed, and also that they're doing it in a safe way and not during busy times of the day, during traffic, in a banner sag where trucks would catch them. We want to make sure that we limit the city's exposure to risk for that service. But we do see the value in the community and support continuing that service. And then the next items there for intermodal containers. If it's placement of a permanent container it would be $75 permit fee. If it's for a temporary placement it would be a $35 dollar permit fee. You'll see all that without breathing. I try. We do have some survey information here available of course the the construction board of

[2:37:00] adjustments as we're levying that new fee of $70. We do see that Odessa has been like us in the past not charging a fee in Midland and Abilene or just on either side of it so we're right down the middle on proposing that fee for downtown banner for example City of Odessa because of the risk associated with downtown banners, they don't allow the function at all. Midland charges a fee of $75. So our fee of $15 is very favorable compared to those items. Then for intermodal containers, I support the staff made this very simple that we're charging the $75 or $35 depending on the time of it. Other cities may get a lot more complicated, and that's the information of how they levy that fee. The financial impact is nominal, but we're supportive of letting this be. Morgan, hold on. Charlotte. The downtown banner fee, you're proposing $15. Now, correct me if it's changed, but I thought that we did not allow downtown banners unless it was a non-profit health banner. That was in place 12 years ago, I didn't like it then, that we did not allow banners downtown to cross the street. Is that still correct, but you want to raise the fee for the non-profits? I'll defer to John James to speak to exactly what kind of folks are already allowed to do that service. There's no ordinance change on ordinance about what a banner is in. There's no change, but there isn't. This will just provide a mechanism input on how that's done.

[2:39:03] But it does not affect who may or may not put up a banner and where a banner can go. That's under other ordinance. This is just the fee ordinance. So wherever a banner is permitted under your existing ordinances that are not changed, there will now be a fee where there was no fee before and whether that is part of it has to do with making sure that it's erected properly and taken down properly. Thank you Dan. Al? Al Torres Billing Official did the energy of question or explain more on that. It's not gonna change who can put the banners up and where they can be placed. Really right now, there's no order or requirements to who can put them up. We've had damage done to the cables, the pulleys, operations that have to fix those. I thought that there was an ordinance, because I remember our previous mayor making the exception for Rick helped me out. I think a lot of the issue at that time involved around actually that the city staff was actually going out putting those up taking them down and and so forth and so the discussion happened that yes nonprofits could still utilize that but we weren't going to be taking them down and putting them up all the time so it revolved around that and then the discussion went from there okay I should also mention that it's our intent that we capture any marginal revenue from that function and reinvest it in the failing pulleys and poles and everything that's out there, we took a visit to it and it's certainly in need of some improvement is that this would devise a revenue mechanism to make some nominal maintenance to that. In addition, there are several items that we are recommending from removal from our code,

[2:41:05] again, cleaning up the language. All of these electrical licensing fees are now levied at the state level, so our local code is superfluous and since we were taking permits at this time, it also made sense to go ahead and remove this language from the code. There's also one final fee is related to a fast track plan review. This is again just a clean up of language, currently commercial applicants do have the opportunity to apply for a fast track where we hire an outside vendor to do their plan review. The current language states that it would be 30% of the permit fee and that's not really the intent of how that was supposed to be adopted. And so the clean language starting here is the expedited plain review. This is how it was actually intended to be adopted when this was first brought to the council and is what staff would recommend implementing instead and that it would ultimately be at the cost of the third-party plain review service plus 15% of that plain review fee. That is it for permits. Need a motion We was presented. Could we take it line item? Well, I'm taking one into time I can agree to Removing some of the electrical permit Journeyman Masters Excuse me, it is one ordinance You can discuss amending a motion So right now the motion is Motion to pass as presented There could be discussion, some amendments. You could do anything you want with the ordinance. But the process has to be a vote on the particular motion. That is as presented, Harry, is that right? That is correct. Do I have a second for the motion as presented? Second. We have a second on the motion as presented.

[2:43:06] Questions Council? A second. I don't want to have to vote no against this because that's a vote no against removing those electrical permit licensing fees. But when I have a problem with the difference between permanent and temporary and a model containers, same type of container, when the temporary is going back and forth, you put it there, you take it away, and it's cheaper than the permanent, along with, I don't have anything else from that, but that's what I'm insisting. I want those licensing fees to be removed if it's at the state level, but I don't want to have to vote no against that. Is there such a difference? Yes. Basically, and this is a little bit misleading in that currently intermodal containers are permitted as any other building, which is the permit fee is based on the value. And so each time a intermodal container comes in, we have to ask them, what's the value of it? and it can range from maybe $2,000, $5,000, whatever. So our goal here is to actually simplify it so that we don't have to be asking the value of the container each time each container just has one flat fee. I think the idea with the lower fee for temporary is that this would be someplace like Walmart brings in a bunch of containers before their Christmas time and then takes them away and they may rotate containers in. So each time they come in with a new container, it's a new fee. And so we thought it made sense to have a higher fee for somebody bringing one in. It's going to sit there and stay. But if they're swapping them in and out, we thought a reduced fee made sense because they may be paying that fee multiple times over the year. That's why it seems like to me it would be reversed.

[2:45:07] To constantly change it, I would think it would be $75 because they're constantly doing something there's constant work involved and when it's there permanent, it's just a one time. So I would have thought that it would have been reversed. I think the way we're looking at it is if we go out and look at it, make sure it's properly situated on the site, and there's a lot of upfront work, but for a temporary container that you bring in and then move and do another one, if they're putting it in the exact same place, that is actually less work for us. That explains it. John, on these fees that we're going to remove or electrical ice, and then all that part of it. Tell me again why we're going to remove these fees. It used to be the case that we as the city permitted electricians and licensed electricians actually. But then the state took that over and said we're going to license electricians. If you're licensed with the state, you can work in any city and the state. And so these basically are not necessary any longer. I'm sorry, just wanted to add one more thing, if we don't take this out, we're not actually licensing electricians anymore, so these aren't fees being charged to anyone, it's really just to clean up. So if you, for some reason, didn't approve this, this section would stay in the ordinance, but because we don't license electricians anymore anyway, it really doesn't make a difference. It's really just cleaning up our ordinance to remove it. Here in Council Steve Hampton, I appreciate the fact that we're kind of sun-setting some of these fees and look on that favorably as a good thing and progress.

[2:47:15] The smaller the government, the better, less is more in other words. I also think that most of these fees are for larger businesses. There may be exceptions to that, but generally I think that's good. And I don't have any problem with changing fees. I think when you go up on fees though, you have to come down on your general fund. So what we're doing is switching out, in my opinion. So if you're gonna go up on your fees, then you're expecting to maintain the tax level at the same rate in the future. And thank you. Further public comment? You have motion on the floor to accept this as presented. I do have a second at wheel call for the vote. in favor please say aye aye. Opposed nay. Here another nay. Put a 5-1 on that with please. H is the G, first public hearing and consideration of an ordinance by the city's San Angelo amending a pick appendix A fee schedule by repealing Article A5 0-0 street-use fees and its entirety providing for Severe ability in an effective date. Margin? We had some duplication in the code. We're just cleaning up language here. We already speak to the fee for street use in section A 2004. So we would recommend removing it from A 500 so that it for easier administration and to clean up the language. So no change proposed in the fee. The current fee of $35 was ratified by council in July 2015. I see where you say you moved to approved it. It just didn't come out. Okay, do I have a second? Okay.

[2:49:15] Okay. Public comment. Questions from the council? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. Put a 6-0 on that one. Item number eight is the first public hearing and consideration of an ordinance of the City of San Angelo, Texas, and the next AP schedule. Article A1500, facility use fees by adding Section A1500 to Fort Consul facility, membership and attendance fees, providing for severe ability, providing for an effective date. What's before you, the final item for fee review today is the Fort Concho fees. It does seem quite cumbersome. We have quite a few fees listed. It's simply because the Fort's fees have been adopted by their board, by their council in discussion, but we are needing to ratify them in an ordinance. So fees that y'all have seen before, they're coming back to you now just to be in the code and perfected in that way. So only items which have any information over here in proposed fee are actually recommended for a change at this time. There's a recommendation to increase seven existing fees and one implementation of a new fee. And I do have survey information and cost of service shortly for those items where it's available. So for example, Frontier Day booth rentals, The current fee is $10 to $20. Staff's asking for some additional flexibility there to serve our customers for $10 to $100, simply because there are vendors that come in that want that bigger booth, and we didn't have the availability, we were kind of piecing it to try to serve them. So that's just a different way to do that. The next item there is the new fee for event food sales, proposing to charge 20% of gross sales. The intent there is for when we have private food vendors come to, for example, our Christmas at Fort Conshow, as they're selling food to our customers at our event that they would profit share in that, which is not unusual. We'll get to that survey information shortly.

[2:51:18] Continuing on with their list of fees, the Halloween theme night, currently we're charging $5 to $8. We are proposing increasing that to $5 to $15, just to give some additional flexibility. We sell on that event every year, and we're wanting to offer even more service that may be a higher level, which would drive cost, but would also be open to the market for consideration. The next item there is children's workshops and youth. The current fee is $10 to $15. We're hoping to just bump that top level from $10 to $35, mainly driven by cost of service, duration of the event, and what others are charging for the same thing. So that is a small change there. The rest of these, as I mentioned, are simply ratification. And then these, the tour self-guided, guided and memberships are proposed unchanged. The financial impact, you'll see a total, the financial impact for each of these venues, each of these items. It would total about $29,900 additional revenue for Fort Concho for the venues in particular. That's revenue that's going to trickle in over time. Because for example, folks are booking the Fort Concho venues right now for events that will be held in 2017 and 2018. So it really won't be until Council potentially adopts this and completes it and folks are booking events for 2018 and beyond that we would see that revenue begin to trickle in as folks are planning 12 to 18 months out. So that total of all those financial impacts is about $29,000. For the children's workshop. We are showing a cost of service of about $180 per event. So depending on how many kiddos come would really drive how we cover that cost. But we are asking again for that flexibility to charge $10 to $35 if it's a longer event. The Nature Center and State Park charge more than that for similar type events. And so we're still trying to keep

[2:53:22] our costs low to be able to invite youth out to enjoy our facility. Again, for that Halloween themed night program, it's difficult to derive the cost of service for that because it's simply a staff member already on his regular time on a person else's cost and it's difficult to derive that down into a per person cost. But we did do a survey to compare that. The downtown ghost walk is at the height of what we're trying to charge. The paintball haunted adventure is actually more. this one isn't I don't think a guided tour so that's why it's much more affordable and so keeping that fee at five to fifteen dollars still is very affordable for what those folks want to do and then the frontier day booth rentals again we were wanting to go up to a potential of a hundred dollars for folks that do want one of those bigger events and when you look at similar events it is much more than that at other type venues that these same vendors are going to for the same type of booth rental. We're the event food sales. We're hoping to go to 20% of gross sales to profit share in that. The farmers market does something similar where it's either $100 a day or 10% of sales. We just wanted to keep it really clean and a flat percentage. Now we'll get into kind of some of the venues for Fort Conshow that they're proposing changing the service for, I do want to point out as we look at these services, all of these venues here are what we would consider full service venues, meaning when you show up to have your wedding or your quinceanera or whatever it is, their staff on the premises, they set up the tables for you, they clean up after you leave, they make sure you have everything you need. For conchos, a unique service that we're able to offer citizens at a more affordable rate because it's basically turnkey. You you set up your own tables, you leave it sweet, clean, and so we keep it affordable so that it's a niche market.

[2:55:23] There's folks that want that kind of flexibility, and so we charge less for that. It's not our intent to undercut competitors, but I don't think we would charge anywhere near, for example, with the cactus charges, because it's just a very different venue. So the proposed fees, for example, for Barrick 6 is at $300 that is less than the other survey folks. Commissaries at $600, which is mostly in line with the rest of the survey folks in on with the rest of those venues recommending changing. We thought that that was well within the market of what our existing customers would be willing to consider. That is it for Fort Concho. Mr. Blueheart, I presume you and your board have vetted these and are comfortable with them. They are. Actually, we're behind a curve on a few of them. The board this afternoon is going to see this at the same time, but they have been discussed in great detail earlier and I think the Oregon's performance here, I'm going to take the afternoon off and have her run my board meeting. I moved weird to prove as presented and you don't think by raising these prices you're going to hurt yourself? We looked at this mayor very carefully. We raised the rates a little bit back in October of 14 based on certain building improvements and we did not see an appreciable fall off. In fact, we stayed relatively even on rentals. Calendar 2016 versus calendar 2015, our rental frequencies were virtually the same. There may be a very slight fall off, but I think that'll be based on local economy, more than the rates. We have rarely heard someone say to us that our buildings are overpriced. If anything, we're slightly undervalued,

[2:57:23] But as Morgan had pointed out, this is a niche market. And with eight buildings that we can rent, it's critical to us that we have something for everyone at different income levels. And certain buildings like the stables, let's face it. There aren't many 13,000 square foot halls where you can have a heck of a good time. We're comfortable with it. I just don't want to squeeze every dollar that we can squeeze out of it and then shoot yourself in the foot and that's that's the way I see this. I see this is excessive but well on a couple of the buildings we have made improvements the stables as you know has full heat in there is a huge building and looking at the numbers that Morgan gave you we are still below market rate for the equivalent level of service. I had several board members who want to go higher on the stables and I think 1500 is as high as I want to go. Another way to look at it is if you can guarantee it doesn't rain during the first weekend of December for the next five years, these rates out hold us for the near future if not longer. And the Lions would have to pay that 1500 to have their pancake breakfast? We have a partnership with the Lions. We don't charge the Lions for the space because frankly no lions no pancakes no pancakes no event so it's a it's a it's a very good relationship that actually my question do have a motion to approve is presenting do I have a second okay do I have a motion and a second public comment you Hampton thank you mayor for letting me speak I I really think that the Fort has been undervalued and its contribution to this community. I feel that these prices are great. They're booked every weekend, it seems like. I go by there frequently and there's

[2:59:28] always people running across the street trying to get ready for an event. I would even propose that this be looked at as a money-making situation that is not fully being developed. There's property over there that they could build more buildings and I think they would be rendered and I put that out there for future comment but I think this is a good move and I appreciate it. Thank you. Further public comment? It's Morgan. I do want to point out one bit of language in the ordinance to clarify for folks that are a nonprofit who wish to book one of our venues for a Monday through Thursday or Sunday through Thursday. Your venue rental would be half price. That is in the ordinance before you as well. Thank you. Okay. I do have a motion. I do have a second. We have called for public comment. I will call for the vote. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. and opposed nay, so let's put a 6-0 on it. Item number I, thank you, Margin. You satisfied, blue, thought? Okay, thank you, buddy. Update on sales tax revenue performance, Tina. Good morning, Mayor, Council, Mr. Villan's way left. Just a quick update on where we are as far as sales tax revenue as requested by Mr. Carter last month. We are down 2.3% in February over the same month last year. You'll recall that that would be sales that occurred in December, which would be our our Christmas sales. We are still under budget by four hundred sixteen thousand dollars this year to date. We have been working with City Manager and all of our department directors very actively every week meeting to discuss ways to decrease costs to mitigate this deficit to our budget. We have already

[3:01:30] implemented a hiring freeze and a decrease per per dam rate for staff when we go to travel and things like that. And we're currently working towards a lot of other measures that we plan to implement very soon. I do want to make a point of clarification here as far as the hiring freeze. It does not affect our police officers. Do not affect our police department either. Quite frankly, a director can still submit a justification for the absolute need for that position to the city manager's office for approval. So those are considerations as well. As Tina mentioned, we continue looking for other areas within the city to reduce. We've had multiple meetings and are looking at other areas that will be addressed. And when we do our strategic planning workshop in March 2nd, we'll be addressing services as well with the City Council members to ensure that we're providing a level of service we need to on our core services and making sure that we have other services that actually can be reduced that we can discuss that as well. Thank you, Tina. I have questions. I'll comment, thank you. I wanted to put this on, thank you for doing that. I wanted this as a rolling schedule, just so we can get updated every month because in efforts for what's called a meeting confer coming up. I wanted an update to see how we are standing so we can try to fulfill our obligations on that. Absolutely and that'll be the plan to bring it probably the second meeting of every month as we get the the sales tax numbers in probably after the first meeting most likely so we will do that. Thank you. Okay. No other questions? Public comment? Thank you, Tina. You're welcome, sir. Thank you. Item number A under 7, follow-up administrative issues will be announcements, consider future agenda items. Start with you, Charlotte. I don't have any future agenda items. I do want to discuss a few things about a lot of calls that I've been getting and having

[3:03:30] loose gravel on the streets, out in the Bintwood area, if we couldn't pay particular attention to, also with speeding, excessive speeding, on out to vista between college hills and knickerbocker. These are not my districts, but I'm getting these phone calls, so that's the reason I chose now to mention them. Also, Valley View from Knickerbocker, it originally had, wherever Shane is, it had speed bumps in that big rain that we got here a while back. They floated away and the residents want to know when is the city going to replace them? Got so many phone calls with reference to that. So, but I don't have any future agenda items at this time. In relation to speeding, I'm glad you brought that up. I would like a discussion on potentially decreasing a speed limit in residential neighborhoods if we have to go on variation between the size of the street, maybe drop down from a maximum of 30, maybe to a maximum of 25. I know a lot of citizens have confronted me about that and I've heard a lot of opponents for it because they're scared of their children getting hit or the such. So maybe if we can have a discussion on that for a future agenda. I had a constituent that was concerned about the street coke street that they had gone practically all the way around him, and they had never paved his street. So if you can look into that. And the other thing is that I would like to see if y'all could bring something up about decreasing the late fee for the water bill. Second that. Eric? Unfortunately, I heard something very similar to what Lucy just said, and that is to look at the late fee for the water

[3:05:31] bill and put it on a percentage as opposed to a straight name. I just want to remind citizens that are just now tuning in or they're coming in, is we have town hall meeting on Avenue P flooding issues this evening in council chambers here at 6 p.m. Marty? I'd like an agenda item for the low income housing tax credit assistance policy, I guess is the way it's said. And also, I'd like to understand that we don't have to have much of a rain now to have flooding down college hills in some of those houses, possibly. And I'd like for staff to, I'm not sure if that's an agenda item or staff could just let me know what's going on. I've tried, in the last six years, I've tried three times to get rid of that water department late fee. And I've been beat every time. So if there's three of it that are interested, I would love to see that come back again. Is the current $25? Yes. Flat fee, one day late. Right. One minute late, after three o'clock, I've asked for, I've asked, but. OK, I do have an agenda item. City, street, sweeping machine. We have supposedly two, but only one works. I don't see Shane, so they're OK. but I would like to discuss the possibility for a city our size, looking into the stormwater fee, the purchase of an additional street sweeper for our city. Also, my district, part of it just got resurfaced and that street sweeper has almost swept it back to its original state. I heard that yesterday as well.

[3:07:31] Anything else? And I need a motion to adjourn. Move to adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. We'll move on, we're through.

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